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CyberCoyote

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Bucky

Subj: Re: Civil War#6 musings......SPOILERS
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 06:18:56 pm EST
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> Am I correct in the interpretation that Hulkling in the guise of Hank Pym is the spy in Tony's organization? Bear with me, I realize I am stating the obvious. Story inconsistancies throughout this issue give me pause in assuming this is comepletely accurate. Cap's team has known about Tigra, and I get the impression for longer than the duration of Hulkling's infiltration of IM's forces. To start CW 6, Hank is talking with Miriam Hill when a low level SHIELD agent interrupts them needing Pym's assistance. Obviously, the agent is Hulkling. In his own words Hulking states " ...Pym's been drugged and unconcious since I knocked him out and replaced him back in Arizona this morning." Tigra's been the spy for over a week. I get the impression Cap's known longer than one day. Could there be more than one spy on IronMan's team?


Hulkling's impersonation of Pym must be independent of the Tigra information. There are any number of ways that Tigra could have been found out.


> I am still holding out hope it might be Mr. Fantastic. I've never seen Reed's personality resemble the emotional yoyo it has become. One panel he is cold, dispassionate, almost soulless (Clor surgery). A panel later he cares about little kids and Sue and Johnny not facing incarceration and how he had the stones to stand up to the president of the USA.


Yet his desire for special privileges for Johnny and Sue just makes him more of a jerk as he continues putting other people's wives and brothers-in-law in prison.


> Later near the end of the book, he has the look of soppy milquetoast again as the traitor is revealed and both forces stand ready to oppose one another again. He has the look of the only hero not wanting this inevitable confrontation. Everyone eles' jaws are set and looking very volatile and ready for a fight. Kudos to McNiven's artwork on the subtleties of human expression.


McNiven's art is so transcendent that he makes me like this series despite the faulty characterization.


> Could there still be another spy in Tony's ranks? Could it be Reed? If not, I still get the impression Reed may switch sides during the final battle.


Given the fact that Reed will be fighting Sue and Johnny... I guess a switch is plausible.


> And to enforce Dr Shallots theory that Miriam Sharpe might be Mephisto in disguise, I found it interesting that the story switches from the scene with Miriam to Dr Strange sitting in the middle of what might be a pentagram.


Even though I personally enjoy your theory as entertainment... I doubt it's accurate.


> Holding out hope for the redemption of Mr. Fantastic, and all the heroes.....


Meanwhile, one of my favorite heroes was treated with utter contempt. I'm speaking of the Punisher. Are Millar and Ennis feuding or something? Or does Millar simply fail to "get" the Punisher? I mean, for God's sake, two villains show up, and he shoots them by reflex? No calculation, no analysis, just lifts his guns and pulls the triggers? Come on. He doesn't behave like that. He's not a mad dog. He's not insane. Unless we think Galactus is insane. Or Dracula.

I stopped buying Punisher: War Journal for the same reason. The writer on that is as clueless as Mark Millar where the Punisher is concerned.

Frank Castle is a grim, merciless, methodical executioner - a consummate professional exterminator. War is mathematics for him. Combat is logic. He knows exactly what he's doing and why he's doing it at all times.

I agree that he wouldn't fight Cap. He would rather take a beating. That was correct.

But forgetting where he is and what he's doing and just automatically unloading both barrels at the sight of bad guys? Never.


Bucky



> Meanwhile, one of my favorite heroes was treated with utter contempt. I'm speaking of the Punisher. Are Millar and Ennis feuding or something? Or does Millar simply fail to "get" the Punisher? I mean, for God's sake, two villains show up, and he shoots them by reflex? No calculation, no analysis, just lifts his guns and pulls the triggers? Come on. He doesn't behave like that. He's not a mad dog. He's not insane. Unless we think Galactus is insane. Or Dracula.

I refuse to buy this stuff (it's ALMOST over!) and I'm no fan of the Punisher, but you're spot on here. Castle would never have survived as long as he has if he were incapable of assessing a situation like you describe in the book this way. The only thing that comes to mind that would rectify it is if the villains you mention were going to reveal something that he didn't want out of the bag. Otherwise it's not what makes him what he is.


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