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BaldurMight

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Spiffy

Subj: too much, sign of anti-fun policy
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 09:49:16 pm EST
Reply Subj: Poll: Penance (aka "S&M Man") - Too much, just right or not enough? [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 06:31:47 pm EST

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For me? Too much.

This is a cheap exploitive way for Joey Q and friends to turn around the teasing talk he's engaged in for the better part of a year about Speedball.

Heck, I'm not even sure its internally consistent, since Speedball was repeatedly shown not really having a sense of feeling responsible for the Stamford thing. So almost dying changed that? I'm not sure I get that. Or the lesson this character is supposed to teach us.

Makes you wonder what Joey has planned for his other big target--Mary-Jane?

Penance... Hurts so good! Only not!

> For me? Too much.
>
> This is a cheap exploitive way for Joey Q and friends to turn around the teasing talk he's engaged in for the better part of a year about Speedball.
>
> Heck, I'm not even sure its internally consistent, since Speedball was repeatedly shown not really having a sense of feeling responsible for the Stamford thing. So almost dying changed that? I'm not sure I get that. Or the lesson this character is supposed to teach us.
>
> Makes you wonder what Joey has planned for his other big target--Mary-Jane?
>
> Penance... Hurts so good! Only not!
wtf, seriously! don't normally comment on stuff I havent' read (been skipping frontline) but this is absolutely crazy. Why marvel is doing this to a funloving teen is beyond me, its just as bad (to me) as a character getting raped, probably worse since its portrayed here as self-inflicted. True some teenagers cut themselves out of depression or suicidal tendencies, but Speedball never seemed the depressed teen type. "Fun" characters often receive this type treatment in today's comics, characters who don't take life particularly seriously. In DC it happened to their entire Giffen Justice League, in Marvel its Speedball who's transformed from funloving to almost the darkest concept imaginable. Problem is characters like the masochistic Penance are not too uncommon, though Penance takes it farther its not that different from Wolverine, who cuts himself every time he pops his claws and virtually every comic willingly undergoes intense pain and physical damage, while fun-loving characters like blue beetle and speedball are virtually extinct. Point is Marvel pushed the envelope way too far here, and hopefully they rectify the mistake sooner rather than later.



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