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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 at 12:37:43 am EST
Reply Subj: Poll: Penance (aka "S&M Man") - Too much, just right or not enough? [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 at 06:31:47 pm EST

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For me? Too much.

This is a cheap exploitive way for Joey Q and friends to turn around the teasing talk he's engaged in for the better part of a year about Speedball.

Heck, I'm not even sure its internally consistent, since Speedball was repeatedly shown not really having a sense of feeling responsible for the Stamford thing. So almost dying changed that? I'm not sure I get that. Or the lesson this character is supposed to teach us.

Makes you wonder what Joey has planned for his other big target--Mary-Jane?

Penance... Hurts so good! Only not!

it's way, way, way too much.

when I first got seriously into comics I got into new warriors (series 1) as my favorite comic. I followed it for 30 issues too (then didn't have a ride to the comic shop for a few years as my brother went off to college). Of the warriors (and I like all the original 6) Speedball was my favorite. He was a fun loving jokester with a penchant for rambling and powers that seemed laughable at first but really had alot of untapped potential.

Civil War Frontline has left me disgusted at Robbie's treatment with every issue. When I first saw the Stamford incident I deeply hoped Robbie was alive, now I wish they did kill him. After all dead heros are sure to pop up in a comic within a year or two. This twisted mockery Robbie is becoming is a fate worse than death. They killed the character without having a corpse.

I watched in horror and disguat as each issue of frontline introduced more and more severe ways to torture speedball. first his body (blowing him up, having him beaten in jail, having him shot, imprisoning him without letting him heal, etc.) then his mind (making him a masochist). It's disgusting. It's worse than killing my favorite character, it is a drawn out and painful distruction of one of my favorites that shows that the true masochistr is NOT Robbie but the people writing frontine. It's not often that marvel kills a hero, but they found a way to do it without leaving a corpse. Every beating of speedball represents the beating of fun out of marvel as a whole. And as speedball represented the heroic fun of ols marvel, penance represents the love of pain and torture of new marvel. If things don't pick up and be happy and heroic again after civil war ends I know I will drop alot of the marvel titles I get.

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