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Subj: villainous heroics
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 at 12:46:44 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: Math
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 at 08:55:08 am EST

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> > > Positive times negative equals negative. Rescuing villains is negative.
> > > Just sayin'. \:\)
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> > Only if villains are an unalterable non-positive variable. If saving a villain leads them to cease being a villain and becoming a civilian (Moving to a zero value) or actively becoming a hero through redemption (moving to a positive value) then the outcome value moves from negative to either null or positive.
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> But killing the villain is equally positive, much quicker, and more certain. \:\)

Considering that villains ranging from Doctor Doom to Sandman, Luthor and Pied Piper, have actually aided the good guys from time to time against a bigger threat, you might want to reconsider that variable.

> It's the certainty factor that gives killing the edge.

And eliminates the possibility of redemption, no hero has that sort of mandate.

> I don't know enough math to say how, but I'm sure your conditionals can be expressed algebraically. Those conditionals don't exist on the "kill the villain" side of the equation.

And thus your algebra is overly limited.


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> Considering that villains ranging from Doctor Doom to Sandman, Luthor and Pied Piper, have actually aided the good guys from time to time against a bigger threat, you might want to reconsider that variable.
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This is an odd question, but your post has got me thinking on villains acting heroic and an odd thought entered my mind,

I have seen villains act heroic out of selfishness (ie Dr. Doom trying to stop Thanos in hopes of getting the infinity gauntlet), out of having a common enemy with the hero (hating another villain), out of trying to pose as heros to fool people (original T-bolts), and out of wanting to reform (what the T-bolts became). But an odd thought crossed my mind.

Has a villain EVER stood up to a world threatening menace motivated by the simple fact that it is his world too and he lives their. I mean think of it, the fact that only heros and not some villains stand up to galactus type threats seems a bit silly. After all in those situations it is a case of your world nearing the end and you having the power to act on it and good and evil go flying out the window in the face of survival. But whenever a world threatening menace appears it seems only heros act against it and villains usually hide, or act out of selfishness wanting the power for themselves. You'd think some guy would say "I may be a criminal, but this is my world he's messing with and I have no place else to go".


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