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Stu The Disgruntled Greek

Subj: Re: What the H%LL is going on with Marvel!!!!!! [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 at 11:26:16 am EST
Reply Subj: Re: What the H%LL is going on with Marvel!!!!!! [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 at 11:03:30 am EST

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> In a 2 year span Marvel has:
>
> Killed Thor
> Killed Captain America
> Turned Iron Man into an A$$ Hole
> Outed Peter Parker as Spider Man
> Brought Captain Marvel back to life (so much for dead is dead!)
>
> What is the point? This is like car crash television, one "oh crap" moment after another, hoping for something to stick.
>
> Don't get me wrong, there is a lot I like - the 1 or 2 issues of the Ultimates each year; Annihilation; or the Sentry mini (which got better as it went along), but why, why, why, why makes all these fundamental changes on - what looks like - a whim?

Trying to recapture the glory years of the mid 90's like when Captain America was dying and needed a suit of armour to keep going, Spider-Man was replaced by his clone, Iron Man was turned into a teenager, Thor was killed during ragornoak and they need a Captain Marv-ell or Marvel running around for the hell of it.

Come on, get a grip. Marvel has done wackey and weird things in the past to tell new stories... guess what... they are going to do wackey and weird things in the now and future to tell new stories.

The Disgruntled Greek

> > In a 2 year span Marvel has:
> >
> > Killed Thor
> > Killed Captain America
> > Turned Iron Man into an A$$ Hole
> > Outed Peter Parker as Spider Man
> > Brought Captain Marvel back to life (so much for dead is dead!)
> >
> > What is the point? This is like car crash television, one "oh crap" moment after another, hoping for something to stick.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, there is a lot I like - the 1 or 2 issues of the Ultimates each year; Annihilation; or the Sentry mini (which got better as it went along), but why, why, why, why makes all these fundamental changes on - what looks like - a whim?
>
> Trying to recapture the glory years of the mid 90's like when Captain America was dying and needed a suit of armour to keep going, Spider-Man was replaced by his clone, Iron Man was turned into a teenager, Thor was killed during ragornoak and they need a Captain Marv-ell or Marvel running around for the hell of it.
>
> Come on, get a grip. Marvel has done wackey and weird things in the past to tell new stories... guess what... they are going to do wackey and weird things in the now and future to tell new stories.
>
> The Disgruntled Greek

Disgrunted one:

I don't mind change, but you have to admit that this thing looks, in retrospect, like it was thrown together!
If you are gonna kill Cap (a BIG EVENT) why not do it in Civil War.
If you are gonna kill Thor - why not tie it into something, other than a overly shortened run in his own book.
If Iron Man is gonna turn - then why not drop clues or make it gradual turn. Heck, in 1 or 2 quicky issues, he went from pal-O-Cap to a lying jerk.
If you are gonna bring Captain Marvel back - his death being a cornerstone of Marvel storytelling - why bring him back in a one-shot - why not build it up.

that is why is seems like car-crash T.V. - just kinda thrown together.


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