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Subj: Re: Two Other [small] Problems I Had With Mighty Avengers # 1 [SPOILERS]
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 at 01:00:38 pm EST
Reply Subj: Two Other [small] Problems I Had With Mighty Avengers # 1 [SPOILERS]
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 at 10:10:14 am EST

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...but first, let me reiterate that I enjoyed the issue thouroughly and felt it was the first time I felt I was reading an Avengers title since perhaps Johns' 'Red Zone' arc.

However, I'm not much of a fan of Bendis' dialogue--there's too much of it that's simply superfluous banter, and it rarely moves the story along. I feel he uses it to disguise the fact that too often there's nothing really going on, his characterizations are generally poor, and to disguise the fact that he doesn't know how to really dramatize his New Avengers arcs, though there have been moments in which this is not the case.

But the larger problem I'm referring to in my subject line is Ms. Marvel's calling Hank Pym Jan's 'Crazy Husband' to Tony, or whatever the exact words are.

Yes, we all know that Hank has had personal / moral / ethical / mental / sustance abuse problems over the years. So have Carol and Tony had some variation of these (and Tony's having a lot of them right now).

So have Pietro, Wanda, Hawkeye, T'Challa, She Hulk, Dr. Druid, Namor, Thor, the Vision, Moondragon, Sersi, Mantis, the Hulk, Swordsman, Crystal, and other Avengers.

And Carol and Tony know that.

So, when you've fought alongside Hank Pym against Kang, Ultron, the Masters of Evil, Egghead, the Molecule Man, Korvac, the Collector, the Scarlet Witch, Magneto, Graviton, the Grim Reaper, Immortus, the Grand Master, the Red Skull, Dr. Doom, the Gatherers, HYDRA, the Zodiac, the Skrulls, Master Pandemonium, Maelstrom, Halflife, the High Evolutionary, the Savage Land Mutates, the Squardon Sinister, the Enchantress, Diablo, Bloodhawk, the Lava Men, the Yellow Claw, Terminus, the Master of the World, the Taskmaster, Loki, the Absorbing Man, the Time Keepers, the X-Men, Zeus, the Wizard, the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, Ymir and Surtur, the Kree, Morgan Le Fey, Baron Zemo...

...and others in very bitter battles to the death, and Hank has been there for you, watching your back on principle, and fighting the same foe to the end....

...do you make snide, cast-off commnents like Carol made, ff you have any character at all?

Especially in light of her own history and problems, which she's recently been reviewing and reflecting upon vis-a-vis her status as a public hero?

I don't think you do.

Unless you're in the Bendis/Ellis/Millar world, where most AVERAGE people are callous, treacherous, secretive, manipulative, rude, sociopathic, selfish, desperate, and mean-spirited at worst, and rather simple-minded, easily swayed, and superficial at best (Bendis' Spider Man and Sentry, to name two).

So that remark by Carol was another point in the story in which I was rudely reminded that I was reading a story---and one written by Bendis.

The Black Widow's &*$!! remark was another. She's not a 'gabby' person. She weighs her words carefully, and takes no guff from anyone. She's sophisticated, a tough cookie, who 'takes no prisoners' passed a certain point. Chattery 'banter' while fighting for her life and the life of her team is something that would be completely alien to her.


I read Mighty Avengers as well and my views on it are very mixed.

The action scenes vs the monsters almost felt like an old style avengers book again. Almost. Something was missing and I am not quite sure what. I did appreciate the cameo by godzilla though. I also am not sure how they failed to recognize the moloids.

On the other hand the scenes with Carol and Tony I disliked. For someone who claimed to let Carol have her own team, Tony REFUSED to let her disagree with his member pick. Why was Tony so adamant on sentry? (I still suspect he is a sentry addict, after all he went to the moon to drag sentry back in new Avengers). Why was he so adamant on getting a ninja without any good reason other than "we NEED a ninja, everyone needs ninja's nowadays". Was this Bendis poking fun at himself for overdoing Ninja's in New Avengers? Was this a hint that marvel is forcing him to use ninjas when he doesn't want them?

All in all my opinions on Mighty avengers is mixed. I will give it 2 or 3 more issues to see if it picks up or not.

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