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Dr. Shallot

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Jase

Subj: Re: My thoughts on the issue as a whole [SPOILERS]
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 at 05:59:49 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: My thoughts on the issue as a whole [SPOILERS]
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 at 01:13:25 pm EST

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> I have to say upfront that I was underwhelmed and not impressed. I will still give this series my standard 3-issue commitment to see if it can hook me, but based on the premiere issue I don't think I will be staying with it very long.
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> Anyone who has watched the show "Scrubs"(a favorite in my house) knows that for the bulk of the show the characters joke, play practical jokes, flirt, daydream/fantasize, and conduct themselves in what could be widely considered as unprofessional behavior. Then, all of a sudden, the show can take a serious turn. This sudden change in tone either works or it doesn't, and your overall enjoyment of the episode usually hinges on how well this sudden shift is executed. To me, most of the time it works, because the writing and the cast are talented enough to pull it off.
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> How does this relate to the Avengers? Well, when I think Avengers, I certainly don't think of them as the "Scrubs" of the Marvel Universe. Bendis' attempts at snappy banter and tongue-in-cheek action just doesn't work for me. The transitions in tone from joking to serious also fail. The team just doesn't seem to be approaching situations very seriously. This seems like "Avengers light" to me and I've just never cared for that approach with this team. Having two very unlikeable characters on the team doesn't help-Stark and Sentry. For Tony and Carol's conversation concerning the Sentry, they may have well just labelled Tony "Bendis" and Carol as "typical Marvel fan". Marvel is determined that this character will eventually be great one day and they constantly need to try to sell the reader on that idea. Sentry sucks, that's the bottom line.
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Sad, but true. Whatever potential the character might have had, has been beaten out of him by BENDIS! and, ironically enough, his own creator, Paul Jenkins. I simply fail to see how the character, as he currently is, is in any way intriguing or compelling.

> Stark has become such a despised character in my mind that I just didn't care about his predicament at the end of the book. We all know that he'll emerge from this, so let's enjoy his pain while it lasts. Between this and the last issue of Illuminati it's been a good few weeks for Stark-haters. Thanks Bendis!
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> I enjoyed Cho's artwork and it is obvious he enjoys drawing the ladies. Female Ultron looks like Jan to me, now maybe she'll become a basket case like her ex-husband. I agree with other poster's comments that joking about Hank Pym and any other Avengers who's struggled through personal problems is very unprofessional and out of character for both Carol and Stark.
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It's just odd to me how sporadically the criticism towards Pym from other characters seems to show up. Wasn't this guy just Man of the Year?

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> I truly think that we need a new writer on at least one of the Avengers' titles. If Bendis can turn things around in 2 issues I'll be pleasantly surprised. For now his mixture of action and character development is too light and fluffy for me.
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> At this point my hopes for a decent Avengers title hinges on Avengers: The Initiative by Slott.
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> The Illuminati series has proven that Bendis can write a good action/adventure yarn. I've also been reading Ultimate X-Men stories thanks to the fact that I bought the cd-rom with the first 70 issues. His two arcs on that title were very good.

IMO, not really. He really exposed his weaknesses on writing a team book on those two arcs. If anything, they just showed how he falls into formulaic traps. In the first one, it's almost entirely Wolverine centric with (surprise!) appearances by Daredevil and Spider-Man. In the next one he killed off Hank McCoy in a way that wasn't an eventual progression of the story, but was instead his way of technically spray painting on the wall 'BENDIS! wuz here'.

>With Mighty Avengers he just seems like he's having silly fun. That just doesn't appeal to me.
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> Sad, but true. Whatever potential the character might have had, has been beaten out of him by BENDIS! and, ironically enough, his own creator, Paul Jenkins. I simply fail to see how the character, as he currently is, is in any way intriguing or compelling.

I agree, and while Carol and the other Avengers may not have much respect for him or trust in his abilities, we're supposed to believe that his registration with SHIELD caused other heroes to come out and register themselves? I suspect he'll somehow get tied into Captain Marvel's story and Marvel will continue to try to make him important.
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> It's just odd to me how sporadically the criticism towards Pym from other characters seems to show up. Wasn't this guy just Man of the Year?
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Yes, and I have to believe that this award had something to do with the technology used to manufacture heroes such as the new team of Champions. As we've seen in 52, manufactured heroes that you can turn off and on will eventually blow up in someone's face. If Ultron can gain control of Stark's extremis technology, would it bee too farfetched if he/she can gain control of Pym's? I would think so, since he himself is Pym's creation. I predict that the days of Pym being the cause of some sort of disaster are far from over.
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> The Illuminati series has proven that Bendis can write a good action/adventure yarn. I've also been reading Ultimate X-Men stories thanks to the fact that I bought the cd-rom with the first 70 issues. His two arcs on that title were very good.
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> IMO, not really. He really exposed his weaknesses on writing a team book on those two arcs. If anything, they just showed how he falls into formulaic traps. In the first one, it's almost entirely Wolverine centric with (surprise!) appearances by Daredevil and Spider-Man. In the next one he killed off Hank McCoy in a way that wasn't an eventual progression of the story, but was instead his way of technically spray painting on the wall 'BENDIS! wuz here'.
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The Wolverine arc was too long, I admit that. And I certainly wouldn't have paid $2.50-$3.00 an issue at the time it was originally published for such a decompressed tale, with most chapters coming in at under 5 minutes of reading time. Being able to read the whole saga in one sitting thanks to the cd format helped. I thought the idea that there would be a disgruntled Weapon X squad a logical one, and I don't find Ultimate Wolverine as annoying as the 616 version.

I did like the "New Mutants" arc quite a bit. Yes, Hank's death wasn't very satisfying, particularly due to the fact that he had become almost a joke of a character, mostly due to Millar's treatment. Plus the impact of his death on Storm wasn't very powerful in my eyes mainly because this romance was mostly "off-screen". Their relationship was never given a lot of panel time in the book. Finch's art certainly enhanced my appreciation of the story. Unlike the premiere issue of Mighty Avengers not every character Bendis was writing was trying to spout some lame one-liner.
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