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Subj: Re: Mark Millar and Steve McNiven CW Commentary in latest Wizard Magazine [SPOILERS]
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 05:20:28 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Mark Millar and Steve McNiven CW Commentary in latest Wizard Magazine [SPOILERS]
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 at 05:42:28 pm EDT

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Just got the latest issue of Wizard, which has a Director's Commentary on Civil War. Millar and McNiven show up to give their commentary on the series post-publication, but unfortunately they don't say much that hasn't been said before on the Internet. Much of the commentary is their defense of the controversial moments in the series, followed by a lot of self-congratulation towards each other and some immature joking about Sue Storm's T&A.

( Of course, this IS Wizard, so they do know their audience. Which is no longer me, since the only part of Wizard that I really cared about-- the TPB reviews-- has been cut out, replaced with a mere laundry list of graphic novel solicitations But that's neither here nor there ).

Anyway some things of note....

-- The scene of all the heroes gathered to discuss the SHRA in the first issue is based on a splash page by John Buscema, circa Yellowjacket and the Wasp's wedding. In that scene, the heroes are casually partying and sipping non-alcoholic punch. In Millar and McNiven's scene, they're arguing about the Act, with some of them uncharacteristically supporting it. Something seems very wrong about how the original shot was used for this.

-- Lots of disbelief on Millar's part about how Iron Man is viewed as a bad guy. He discusses the Cap/IM meeting in issue 3, and makes a point that Cap throws the first punch ( which is an untruth, because Tony took down two of Cap's men first ). He seems to think that Iron Man's comprimising with the government is somehow a justifiable position. Given Millar's political statements in previous interviews, it seems odd that he'd take Tony's side.

-- Discussion of an email Millar got about how Thor is an Aryan Superman taking down one of the few black heroes in Marvel. Millar defends himself by saying that he just wanted to kill off a giant hero. While I don't think that Millar is a racist, I can't believe that he's surprised that someone would read in those overtones.

-- Comparison of Cap and the Punisher as " the same guy " because they both represent American wars in the 20th century. Seems rather oblivious to the individual personalities of both characters ( that Cap is the MU's paragon of virtue, and Frank is a serial killer who happens to go after people who arguably deserve it ).

-- Close-up on Woody Allen, who makes a cameo amongst the crowds in the final issue.

Anyone else read this? I'm not reccomending it, but it is certainly interesting ( if troubling ).

> Just got the latest issue of Wizard, which has a Director's Commentary on Civil War. Millar and McNiven show up to give their commentary on the series post-publication, but unfortunately they don't say much that hasn't been said before on the Internet. Much of the commentary is their defense of the controversial moments in the series, followed by a lot of self-congratulation towards each other and some immature joking about Sue Storm's T&A.
>
Oy vey! Modern Marvel in a nutshell. And I gotta be honest, I may not have liked it in its entirety, but Civil War - claiming to be the event it did - should have gotten proper oversized hardcover treatment, complete with commentary, sketches and script page extras. I mean...it only makes sense.

> ( Of course, this IS Wizard, so they do know their audience. Which is no longer me, since the only part of Wizard that I really cared about-- the TPB reviews-- has been cut out, replaced with a mere laundry list of graphic novel solicitations But that's neither here nor there ).
>
Wizard Magazine is barely readable. I tend to flip thru it at work to look at the pictures, but when they do things like have Brian Bendis and Kevin Smith chat to each other about how great they think the other is, I just don't care anymore.

> Anyway some things of note....
>
> -- Lots of disbelief on Millar's part about how Iron Man is viewed as a bad guy. He discusses the Cap/IM meeting in issue 3, and makes a point that Cap throws the first punch ( which is an untruth, because Tony took down two of Cap's men first ). He seems to think that Iron Man's comprimising with the government is somehow a justifiable position. Given Millar's political statements in previous interviews, it seems odd that he'd take Tony's side.
>
Hmm. Steve Rogers opposes a government ruling that vilifies him and his friends, not to mention a bunch of young adults just trying to do the right thing, and encroaches on the civil liberties and rights of (heroic) individuals.
Hmm. Tony Stark enforces a government ruling that vilifies him and his friends, not to mention a bunch of young adults just trying to do the right thing, and encroaches on the civil liberties and rights of (heroic) individuals.
That's without mentioning the facts that Tony Stark locked people up without trial in a prison located outside the United States. Tony only got worse and worse and worse in Civil War - and then he really became an a$$ when, in The Confession, he says he'd take it all back to get Steve back.

> -- Discussion of an email Millar got about how Thor is an Aryan Superman taking down one of the few black heroes in Marvel. Millar defends himself by saying that he just wanted to kill off a giant hero. While I don't think that Millar is a racist, I can't believe that he's surprised that someone would read in those overtones.
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I doubt Millar intended it to be perceived this way, but I'd really rather he created a new size-changing hero to kill off, instead of killing off someone who was just starting to make a comeback. I mean, let's face it; Atlas could've been killed in Goliath's stead and the fan response would've been about equal, while preserving another non-white comic character for future use.

> -- Comparison of Cap and the Punisher as " the same guy " because they both represent American wars in the 20th century. Seems rather oblivious to the individual personalities of both characters ( that Cap is the MU's paragon of virtue, and Frank is a serial killer who happens to go after people who arguably deserve it ).
>
Cap and Frank are not the same guy. The Punisher of the main Marvel Universe is less a product of his war than Cap is of his, and Cap's mentality (if you take it as paralleling Castle's psychosis) spawns from his own personal beliefs even before he became Captain America, whereas Castle's stems from the death of his family.

> -- Close-up on Woody Allen, who makes a cameo amongst the crowds in the final issue.
>
And, just like every other character Millar and McNiven tossed into every scene possible, he went unnamed. \:\-D

> Anyone else read this? I'm not reccomending it, but it is certainly interesting ( if troubling ).
I may check it out at work tomorrow, but I doubt I'd buy Wizard unless they gave me something free that was worth owning with my copy.

Captain Nas-Vell!


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