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AndrewMTC

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Pym Particle

Subj: Re: Continuity
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 at 03:54:04 pm EST
Reply Subj: Continuity
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 at 03:00:47 pm EST

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What I think is a problem with Marvel these days is the question of continuity. When I first read Marvel comics in the 70s what struck me was that what happened in one title (f.i. FF) mattered in another one (f.i. DD). All those books made up one big universe.
Today we have nothing of this. We have a Spider-Man who is full-time member of the New Avengers. We have a Spider-Man who in Marvel Adventures is a teenager in love with Liz Allen. We have a Spider-Man who is a 30 years old teenager who wants to be fed cookies by his elderly aunt. We have a Spider-Man who is father of a teenager. We have an Ultimate Spider-Man who whatever. What all these worlds connects nobody knows. Same for X-Men, FF, Avengers. Nothing matters anymore. If something does not stick, rectify it (and be it with magic). There is no risk, so there is no fun.

> What I think is a problem with Marvel these days is the question of continuity. When I first read Marvel comics in the 70s what struck me was that what happened in one title (f.i. FF) mattered in another one (f.i. DD). All those books made up one big universe.
> Today we have nothing of this. We have a Spider-Man who is full-time member of the New Avengers. We have a Spider-Man who in Marvel Adventures is a teenager in love with Liz Allen. We have a Spider-Man who is a 30 years old teenager who wants to be fed cookies by his elderly aunt. We have a Spider-Man who is father of a teenager. We have an Ultimate Spider-Man who whatever. What all these worlds connects nobody knows. Same for X-Men, FF, Avengers. Nothing matters anymore. If something does not stick, rectify it (and be it with magic). There is no risk, so there is no fun.

Well I look at the issue slightly differently than you do. I don't even think of "Marvel Adventures" and "continuity" in the same sentence, for example.

A complaint about the continuity problems in the Marvel Universe "proper" - which does seem far more fractured than in some past eras - I can understand, and in some ways agree with (Silent War and WWH? what exactly happened there? howabout BND and New Avengers? I guess Skrulls will "fix" all, if not Earth-A doubles?)

But what you are discussing are different publishing venues for the a given character. I look at things like the Ultimate universe, or the MA line, as equivalent to a cartoon or movie series based on a Marvel character. They have their own continuity set up, and could never be part of the true MU. It's not like Ultimate X-Men is taking the place of an X-book...there are plenty of those set in the MU. Ultimate books are just an extra venue to get Marvel characters' stories, if you want an alternative to the "real" thing (instead or in addition).

I think if there is any problem, it is the fragile treatment of continuity WITHIN the MU that should be addressed, not the use of alternate reality stories. I think MU-purists are probably glad that they don't have to buy yet another 3 Spider-Man titles a month and can ignore Spider-Girl, MA, and Ultimate (and the soon to return 4th - and maybe my favorite actually - Spier-Man Loves Mary Jane). I hear Amazing is already hitting lots of people's wallets hard. The alternatives are there for whoever wants them, and I don't see a problem with that. The worlds aren't supposed to connect.



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