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Attok12

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The overlord

Subj: Puppet Master
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 12:42:07 pm EST (Viewed 1 times)
Reply Subj: If you want villains to be taken more seriously, you have to exand their character
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 12:21:17 pm EST (Viewed 1 times)

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> I remember the 'ole Eel when he was stil lthe Electric Eel.
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> There's no reason this guy can't be a major villain.
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> Doc Shallot sent me some DVDs of all the Avengers and Captain America issues going back to the 60s, which I'm enjoying (mightily), and it's amazing to see how seriously the Grey Gargoyle, Electro, the Scorpion, Mr. Hyde, Moonstone I and II, the Vamp, Tiger Shark, and others were taken--the Porcupine and the Planet Man too.
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> They were in every way the equals of the Wasp, Captain America, the Black Widow, Goliath, the Falcon, Nomad, Quicksilver, Hawkeye, etc.
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> And the heroes not only took them seriously, but found them dangerous. We need more of this!
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If you want villains to be taken more seriously, you have to exand their character or explain why thier gimmick is dangerous. There is nothing worse than a generic villain, people don't like him, people don't hate him, they gets no reaction from the reader. Try and give them better motives and valid reasons why they are criminals. The silver age was great for developing heroes, but because the heroes were being developed they didn't have time to develop the villains right away, but now people want their villains to be developed characters. Should the reader hate them, feel sorry for them, almost admire them in a twisted way. if the vilolain is just obstacle in the way, he isn't much of character and not interesting.

Eel actually did something different in the story mentioned, instead of just robbing banks, he anacted a cheme to frame another villain for murder, i never heard of that before.

Also try and have these villains do new things, how times can a villain try and rob a bnk before it becomes boring? Look at Elctro, why should he rob banks, when he can make ATMs spit money at him? That would be different. How times must Wizard form the Frightful Four before he realizes it isn't working, form the Evil Eight or do something else. The writers have to be more creative with these villains to make them interesting.

That's why I liked Brian Reed's take on the Puppet Master in MS. MARVEL #18-20. Masters realized how dumb it was to keep going after the FF with the same old plots and always get defeated every time. So he moved to Chile and started his people trafficking business, where no hero would be around to stop him. Or so he thought.


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