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The overlord

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Tiger Shark

Subj: The point is not whether they are bank robbers or not, its whether they are creative
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 05:27:01 pm EST (Viewed 1 times)
Reply Subj: Exactly - They've Hardly All Been 'Bank Robbers'; In Fact, Those Are By Far The Exceptions
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 03:20:17 pm EST (Viewed 2 times)

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We never saw the Wingless Wizard, the Mad Thinker, Llyra, Diablo, or the Grim Reaper rob a bank. Kraven the Hunter was never intered in robbing banks or the equivelent of that. The Lizard never robbed a bank. Mr. Kline and his minions never robbed a bank, and I don't remember the Death Stalker and the Ani-Men robbing banks either.

Electro, for instance, had some very good days at DD's early peak, when he rode around the skies over Manhattan on lightning bolts. He was no dolt.

The Cobra, the Jester, and Mr. Hyde weren't bank robber-types either.

I don't remember the the Man-Ape, Sauron, the Radioactive Man, the Brute, the Mongoose, either Moonstone I or II, Mesmero, Arcade, Typhoid Mary, the Bengal, the Molecule Man, or Quicksand robbing banks. Nor the Living Laser. In all the Melter stories I recall, I don't remember him ever robbing a bank. Klaw didn't arise out of a 'bank robber' background or mentality.

The truth is that even a lot of these so-called 'street level' criminals and villians had a lot more to do--and did a lot more--than just 'rob banks' or heist armored trucks.

> We never saw the Wingless Wizard, the Mad Thinker, Llyra, Diablo, or the Grim Reaper rob a bank. Kraven the Hunter was never intered in robbing banks or the equivelent of that. The Lizard never robbed a bank. Mr. Kline and his minions never robbed a bank, and I don't remember the Death Stalker and the Ani-Men robbing banks either.

Granted, but a lot of those characters have gotten into a rut, that's my point, they just do the same things over and over again.

Look at Wizard, how times is he going to form a frightful Four to beat FF? Why not form an Evil Eight instead, get a numbers advantage on them? For an evil genius he's pretty stupid and why not get more powerful members? Trapster is pretty well out of his league when fighting against the FF.

Or why not have him do something else, because picking fights with the same people who beat Doom and Galactus all the time is pretty dumb. Smart people learn from their mistakes, they don't make the same mistake over and over again. Frankly it makes Wizard seem stupid.

> Electro, for instance, had some very good days at DD's early peak, when he rode around the skies over Manhattan on lightning bolts. He was no dolt.

Yeah, but if Electro were intelligent at all, he wouldn't rob banks and he wouldn't get beaten by spider-man. If he were intelligent he would be millionaire at worse, a god at best and he would have killed Spidey easily. Him being an idiot is the only way his character makes sense, how else would spidey beat him all the time, Electro is far more powerful then he is.

Besides Electro trying to kill himself and Spidey trying to stop him, was far more interesting then him just stealing things for the billionth time.

> The Cobra, the Jester, and Mr. Hyde weren't bank robber-types either.

Jester was robbing a bank a Decalogue story line. Frankly why is Jester still a criminal, didn't he reform during the end of the O'Neil era?

At this point Jester (assuming it wasn't Powers who was killed during CW) needs to justify why he is still a criminal and why the character development of the O,Neil era was thrown out.

I think they should retcon his origin, because it kinda sucks at this point, he became a criminal because he forget take acting lessons and people laughed at his bad performances, that just makes him seem like an idiot. Now if some other actor screwed him over and that's he was laughed off stage and after Jester tired to reform he heard about this guy becoming a millionaire movie star and going back to crime because of that. Gives Jester some pathos, makes more deeper and not a childish idiot. DD having to defend some creep who ruined Jester's life, is far better than Jester being another psycho clown villain/would be crime boss.

Also he needs a better, his costume sucks, he should wear a creepy threater mask.

> I don't remember the the Man-Ape, Sauron, the Radioactive Man, the Brute, the Mongoose, either Moonstone I or II, Mesmero, Arcade, Typhoid Mary, the Bengal, the Molecule Man, or Quicksand robbing banks. Nor the Living Laser. In all the Melter stories I recall, I don't remember him ever robbing a bank. Klaw didn't arise out of a 'bank robber' background or mentality.
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> The truth is that even a lot of these so-called 'street level' criminals and villians had a lot more to do--and did a lot more--than just 'rob banks' or heist armored trucks.

Yeah, but they have to be creative and not recycle the same schemes from 40 years ago.


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