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The Last Word

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Tiger Shark

Subj: I concur, generally.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 05:55:37 pm EST
Reply Subj: That's Right - It's TODAY That There's No Risk
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 10:07:52 am EST

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When you continually and lazily trot out the same bad guys--the Wrecking Crew, the Rhino, Tiger Shark, HYDRA, Mr. Hyde, and other once-classic, once-deadly villains and use them as patsies, THAT'S when you have 'no risk.'

Need I repeat the absurd Raft affair, in which many or most of the criminals returned to their cells after being told to, or the recent 'Hood's army,' most of whom did a lot of nothing, had 0 characterization, and many of those we saw at the first gathering weren't even seen again.

Even the Maurauders didn't do very much in Messiah Complex, and certainly not newcomer-to-the-group Exodus. They were portrayed as near-juveniles.

Even Princess Python almost killed Iron Man once.

Compare all of this crapola to the Bronze Age portral of villains, when Llyra killed Lady Dorma and You Felt It.

Or when the Death Stalker was legitimately weird and creepy, and mr. Kline mysterious and unknowable.

And on and on to Diablo, the Mad Thinker, the Grim Reaper, the original Zodiac, Mesmero, Sauron, the Leader, Red Raven, Kang and Immortus, Terminus, Mephisto, the Mandrill, the Mutates, Centurious, the Man-Bull, the Vamp, Mother Night, and a long, long, long host of others.

Archie Comics, it was not.

It's not just the same bad guys, it's the same stories we've seen over and over again -- at D.C.

I collect just about everything that comes out from Marvel, D.C. and their affiliates. Generally, I've noticed that over the last 10 years, Marvel has become far more "D.C-like". By "D.C.-like" I mean that the earth is constantly threatened with destruction, cities are being destroyed left and right, etc. At D.C., this is one of the problems the original Crisis was meant to resolve. Indeed, Superman was intentionally depowered because he'd become ridiculously overpowered.

Marvel, by contrast, was far more grounded. At Marvel, the planet was a big place and it was impossible to destroy, except when threatened by someone like Galactus. Adventures were smaller, or happened in other eras or places, such that modern-day New York didn't have to get rebuilt every 4 issues. At most, heroes and villians wrecked a couple of blocks, and maybe some fire hydrants. A true menance like Count Nefaria would drop a building or two, and wreck Avengers mansion.

Undoubtedly the result of cross-pollination, Marvel heroes started performing the same silly feats that Superman, et al performed over at D.C., e.g., lifting entire mountain ranges,destroying earth-sized asteroids, etc. I mean, I found WWH a good read, but the idea that you're going to destroy New York (and possibly the planet) with a footstep is silly by even silly standards. And unnecessary. It's lazy writing, in my opinion. You could tell a great story without having to "wow" me with increasingly dubious demonstrations of power. It's shock for shock's sake. And what makes it even crazier is the fact that today's writers need 12 issues to complete an arc. One of the best stories ever told, the Dark Phoenix saga, took only 9 issues to tell in its entirety, including the epilogue. The Nefaria saga in Avengers Nos. 164 to 166 took only three issues. And there was great charaterization, unlike today's back and forth between talking heads, with random plot points thrown in.

In sum, I would rather have a smaller, contained story with great plot and characterization, than the hopelessly overplayed mega-event that breaks the internet in half, and has everyone scratching their head as to what just happened.

> When you continually and lazily trot out the same bad guys--the Wrecking Crew, the Rhino, Tiger Shark, HYDRA, Mr. Hyde, and other once-classic, once-deadly villains and use them as patsies, THAT'S when you have 'no risk.'
>
> Need I repeat the absurd Raft affair, in which many or most of the criminals returned to their cells after being told to, or the recent 'Hood's army,' most of whom did a lot of nothing, had 0 characterization, and many of those we saw at the first gathering weren't even seen again.
>
> Even the Maurauders didn't do very much in Messiah Complex, and certainly not newcomer-to-the-group Exodus. They were portrayed as near-juveniles.
>
> Even Princess Python almost killed Iron Man once.
>
> Compare all of this crapola to the Bronze Age portral of villains, when Llyra killed Lady Dorma and You Felt It.
>
> Or when the Death Stalker was legitimately weird and creepy, and mr. Kline mysterious and unknowable.
>
> And on and on to Diablo, the Mad Thinker, the Grim Reaper, the original Zodiac, Mesmero, Sauron, the Leader, Red Raven, Kang and Immortus, Terminus, Mephisto, the Mandrill, the Mutates, Centurious, the Man-Bull, the Vamp, Mother Night, and a long, long, long host of others.
>
> Archie Comics, it was not.


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