Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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entzauberung

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Jared

Subj: Re: Okay, I'm no expert, but I have to ask...
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 08:48:48 pm EST
Reply Subj: Okay, I'm no expert, but I have to ask...
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 07:53:59 pm EST

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> Not sure how this story is going to end up, but the fact that Millar and JR Jr. are talking about further Kick-Ass stories really raised my spirits. Contrary to the intentionally hyperbolic ad campaign, Kick-Ass is not the Greatest Superhero book of All Time, because it isn't really a superhero book. It's a scatching commentary on the superhero genre, and how easily it falls apart when faced with reality. Except, unlike with Civil War, Kick-Ass intends to make this fact clear.

Look, I know that the superhero genre is fairly ridiculous. And you know what? I don't care. I still love it, and I don't really see why anyone needs to go out and condemn it, and me by association, for enjoying it.

> But then, since this book joins the growing category of spectacularly cynical superhero comics ( also included are Millar's previous Wanted and other works, Ennis and Robertson's The Boys, Ellis' Thunderbolts, and Grant Morrison's X-Men run ), it's gotten complaint from fans of superheroes. And while taste is subjective, there have been comments that trouble me, such as this one from lower on the boards...
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Your comments below are well-taken, but the criticism made by the comics you cite seem to me to reflect the other side of the coin-implicitly deriding superhero comics and the people who enjoy them. I'm not interested in Vertigo-style comics; if you don't enjoy them, then more power to you, but I don't see then why I should be insulted for having different tastes in superheroes. I'll admit, I'm not a fan of comics so much as I am of superheroes in general, and Spider-Man and Sleepwalker in particular, and I don't think I'm stupid or juvenile for liking these things.

In some ways, frankly, I'm a bit cynical about cynics-sometimes it seems like I'm being considered a moron for not sharing their feelings of doom and gloom. IOW, if you disagree with them, you're an idiot.

Granted, I may be wrong, but these are just the vibes I get from "scathing commentaries" on the superhero genre, or bread-and-butter D&D-style fantasy, or what have you.

Again, if you love books like Preacher and Transmetropolitan, then that's great. I'm sure the works are well worth your while. But I'll stick with Spider-Man and Sleepwalker, thanks.

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> Look, I know that the superhero genre is fairly ridiculous. And you know what? I don't care. I still love it, and I don't really see why anyone needs to go out and condemn it, and me by association, for enjoying it.
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I personally didn't read Kick Ass as an attack against superheroes, as Nitz did. It was a pretty effective piece of teenage drama, though.

> Your comments below are well-taken, but the criticism made by the comics you cite seem to me to reflect the other side of the coin-implicitly deriding superhero comics and the people who enjoy them. I'm not interested in Vertigo-style comics; if you don't enjoy them, then more power to you, but I don't see then why I should be insulted for having different tastes in superheroes. I'll admit, I'm not a fan of comics so much as I am of superheroes in general, and Spider-Man and Sleepwalker in particular, and I don't think I'm stupid or juvenile for liking these things.
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> In some ways, frankly, I'm a bit cynical about cynics-sometimes it seems like I'm being considered a moron for not sharing their feelings of doom and gloom. IOW, if you disagree with them, you're an idiot.
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Maybe, but any attacks against old-school superheroics on these boards are outnumbered a thousand to one by histrionics about how comics are not exactly like they were in 1983, and how the world most likely will go under because of that fact.




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