Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Doc Shallot

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Fiasco

Subj: Good deal
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 01:00:34 am EST
Reply Subj: Demon in a Bottle for a mere 3 dollars.....
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 07:49:49 pm EST

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So I hit up the LCS today for Thor, Daredevil and Captain America. I also grabbed Kick Ass, essentially because I liked the name and was looking for something a little different than my norm - and i'm a JRjr fan. But a little book on the shelf caught my eye - and I know it came out a while ago, but there was the Iron Man Demon in a Bottle tpb. Now, i'm in Iron Man lockdown...but this is a classic storyline that I havent fully read and it was on sale for 3 bucks. 3 measley bucks. I had to get it.

It got me to thinking about my dislike for current Iron Man and Spider-Man stories and characterization/interpretation. I know the interweb wasn't in vogue back in those days of IM's alocoholism - but I wonder how much people disliked Marvel taking a prominent character and doing something as controversial as that? I remember at the time, I thought it was great. What better foe for a hero to fight than something inside himself? Today, that storyline is essential in Tony Stark's character. Then I think to today and how something as simple as his current stories have driven me to write complaints. Don't get me wrong - in trying to bring back my very young 80's mindset, I think I still would feel the same about Tony's literary actions of today. And the SHRA in general. God knows I hated the Clone Saga too (in the 90's). I quit the Spidey books for a time (I eventually got the missed issues of Amazing and found that, knowing the eventual outcome, I could better appreciate that chapter in the character's life).

Any of you driven to write Marvel in protest (in lieu of posting on a message board back in the day) or to generally complain about something that eventually became heralded as a classic storyline? Ever read something about character handling that really pissed you off?



> So I hit up the LCS today for Thor, Daredevil and Captain America. I also grabbed Kick Ass, essentially because I liked the name and was looking for something a little different than my norm - and i'm a JRjr fan. But a little book on the shelf caught my eye - and I know it came out a while ago, but there was the Iron Man Demon in a Bottle tpb. Now, i'm in Iron Man lockdown...but this is a classic storyline that I havent fully read and it was on sale for 3 bucks. 3 measley bucks. I had to get it.
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Sale on drunks in isle 5! Iron Man has had several good periods throughout his history but I have to say the Micheline/Romita Jr./Layton period is probably my fave. Before 90% of my childhood friends dropped comics we all had a specific character or title we concentrated on(except for me-I wanted them all). My brother collected Iron Man. I think the first issue of Iron Man's solo book I read was one where he's fighting Midas. I got hooked after a story in which Iron Man defeats Arsenal after the robot takes out the rest of the Avengers. Then came Micheline/Romita/Layton and I was in it for the long haul, gladly taking the issues off my brother's hands when he became too cool for comics.

> It got me to thinking about my dislike for current Iron Man and Spider-Man stories and characterization/interpretation. I know the interweb wasn't in vogue back in those days of IM's alocoholism - but I wonder how much people disliked Marvel taking a prominent character and doing something as controversial as that? I remember at the time, I thought it was great. What better foe for a hero to fight than something inside himself? Today, that storyline is essential in Tony Stark's character. Then I think to today and how something as simple as his current stories have driven me to write complaints. Don't get me wrong - in trying to bring back my very young 80's mindset, I think I still would feel the same about Tony's literary actions of today. And the SHRA in general. God knows I hated the Clone Saga too (in the 90's). I quit the Spidey books for a time (I eventually got the missed issues of Amazing and found that, knowing the eventual outcome, I could better appreciate that chapter in the character's life).

I remember the story being a big deal even back in the day before the web. I loved it and had the internet existed back then I would have stated so online if I chose to do so. I'm sure there would have been many fans who didn't care for it either. Micheline and crew gradually built up Stark's battle with the bottle. As personal and business problems escalated over the course of a year or so Stark hit the bottle even harder. I remember feeling a sense of triumph at the end of issue #128. In hindsight you can certainly say that his problems with booze were too neatly wrapped up in one issue, but this was nothing new even to a fan who had only been reading for a few years. Stark would have a much longer battle in the years ahead but I don't think this story is minimized because of it. This storyline permanately cemented Bethany Cabe as my all-time favorite Stark girlfriend. I also have to confess that as someone who has experienced first hand the scars alcoholism can create in one's family, the notion that a person of strong character with the support of friends and family can overcome such a problem was a hopeful one. A bit naive, but hopeful.
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> Any of you driven to write Marvel in protest (in lieu of posting on a message board back in the day) or to generally complain about something that eventually became heralded as a classic storyline? Ever read something about character handling that really pissed you off?

Well, like yourself, I was driven away from Spider-man by the clone saga. Dropping the title was my form of protest. I didn't write any letters. There have been a few storylines that are considered classics that I didn't think were a big deal, but none that never got me as agitated as the spider-blunders over the years. I'll have to mull that question over and try to think of a good example. I will say that I was bothered by Millar's characterization of Reed Richards during Civil War, but I don't think that story will stand the test of time as a classic.
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