Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Tiger Shark

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SQUEAK

Subj: Look Here, Mark-O
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 10:49:39 am EST
Reply Subj: Re: Item: The Establishing Illustration For Barbarus Was Awful!
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 10:22:15 am EST

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I actually like Paul Smith's work myself; I think 4th rate is more than a bit harsh on the guy. I'm with you on Avalanche, though.

The 80s Handbooks had new art for most entries. The current Handbooks don't have the budget for that, apparently - 150 characters, with a wild guess at, what, maybe $100 a page for a new pin-up, so it'd only be maybe an extra $15000 in creative costs to commission original art? I guess they don't think the extra sales that might generate would be worth the costs. In any case, I'm sure that's not a surprise - if not having new art is a deal-breaker, yeah, don't buy the books. \:\(

SQUEAK / Mark O'

> That's one of my main dislikes--complaints--about this new volume. Barbarus is a very cool character and deserved somehting better than the 4th-rate illustration he got--the same with Avalanche (and about 15 others)--his establishing illustration is terrible.
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> John Buscema must be rolling in his grave.
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> As I said below, one of the editors should have rejected those illustrations as acceptable. In the classic 80s handbook, we never, ever saw such lousy artwork.

..the thing is, $100 for new art per character where needed is just run of the mill stuff (and fees) when you're attempting a major project like this.

Marvel is a hugely successful company, with many millions of dollars at their disposal. If you're going to invest all the time and energy in a costly product like this, dammit, Do It Right.

THERE'S NO excuse for 4th-rate art as the major depiction of some of these characters.

There's no excuse for that ridiculuous and absurd Avalanche drawing---do they have something against Greeks?

Item: I can still instantly recall the illustrations of the Radioactive Man, Mr. Hyde, the Living Monolith, the Death Stalker, the Scarecrow, Tiger Shark, and others from the 80s classic Handbook.

Most used in the current edition are entirely unremarkable by comparison.

The NEW art should not EASILY be bested by the older art condensed in the smaller shots.

What that says is: this company is going backward artistically and creatively.


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