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Omar Ka

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Subj: Re: Future counterparts of established villains; DC may have started this with
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 11:03:43 pm EDT (Viewed 109 times)
Reply Subj: Future counterparts of established villains; DC may have started this with
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 06:06:04 am EDT

> Any MVL examples of future versions of established villains?

There are 2099 versions of Doctor Doom, the Green Goblin, the Vulture, Venom, and the Phalanx. (The Phalanx are the same race as the "present-day" versions; Doom may or may not have been the original.) The original 2099 timeline also featured an entire cult of indiscriminate vigilantes modeled on the Foolkiller identity. Another villain from this timeline, Halloween Jack, took on the identity of Loki at one point...and, oddly, was killed later still as Halloween Jack only to somehow be displaced in time to the "present" MU, where he pestered Domino for an issue of X-Force. The current-day villain Exodus survived into that time period as well.

Additionally, a 2211 version of the Green Goblin turned up in Spider-Man Meets Spider-Man 2099 #1. Later, 2211 versions of the Hobgoblin and Chameleon turned up in issues of Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.

The Last Avengers Story provided future incarnations of Ultron (same entity as the current one, in effect anyway) and a new Grim Reaper.

The Marvel UK series Death's Head II featured Baron Strucker V, a descendant of the most notorious Supreme HYDRA of "today's" Marvel Universe from the year 2020, who became the villain Charnel in one timeline. A 2020 version of the villainous organization Advanced Idea Mechanics also turned up in this series.

Future Sentinels have been a mainstay of the various X-Men titles since the first "Days of Future Past" storyline.

Along similar lines, the X-Man Bishop's native timeline features a future Hellfire Club and an entire race of vampiric "Emplates" who are connected to the present-day villain Emplate. The race of Emplates were mentioned in passing in Uncanny X-Men #308, some months before the original Emplate's first appearance, but finally confirmed as the descendants of the contemporary Emplate in Generation X #14.

In an especially unusual case, an established future character -- the sometimes-villainous Iron Man of 2020 -- had an even more villainous descendant turn up as the Iron Man of 2093. In short, a villainous version of a mildly villainous version of a present-day hero! I've no idea how that counts for this list.

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