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Subj: Re: SI starting points?
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 01:45:17 am EDT (Viewed 137 times)
Reply Subj: Re: SI starting points?
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 at 10:58:58 pm EDT (Viewed 133 times)

> > > I don't think it's really applicable. I'm sure when Dugan had a
> > > small guest appearance in Wolverine origins, Way wasn't
> > > necessarily told.
> >
> > It wouldn't have been necessary, because Dugan was still the real
> > deal in that story. Dugan wasn't replaced until after the end of
> > Civil War.
> We don't know the relationship between that WO story arc and Civil
> War. So we don't know if that was a pre or post Civil War appearance
> of Dugan.
> But I would tend to think that the Dugan shown in WO was a skrull
> since he died in the story, but was fully recovered in his next
> appearance without any explanation. Skrulls who replaced characters
> have been shown to have "died" on several occasions only to come
> back without any explanation.

I find it impossible to reconcile this. Far too much happened after that story. IMO, Daken has to have taken place well before Cap's death. In fact, Quesada even said in an interview afterwards that Dugan survived Daken's attack.

> > Pym was replaced before New Avengers began, sometime
> > between Avengers Finale and Beyond!.
> No. According to Mighty Avengesr, Pym was replaced sometime after
> New Avengers (the team) began, but before House of M. That would put
> it somewhere between NA issues 3? and 12? (approximately). we know
> that the real Hank Pym was active during the NA Breakout story
> because we see him reacting to the event.

There's a conflict. In New Avengers, immediately after the breakout, the Queen meets with Skrull Hank.

> > I'm betting it was during her appearances in Tieri's
> > Wolverine.
> Elektra wasn't in Tieris run (which I loved). She only appeared in
> Wolverine's solo series during the end of Hama's run (from issues
> 100 to 112?) and in Millar's run (20 to 22). I would have to think
> it happened during Millar's run, perhaps when she was killed and
> revived by the Hand. But we will find out in the next issue of MA.

Whoops. Yeah, I meant Millar's run.

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