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Subj: Re: SI starting points?
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 02:13:14 am EDT (Viewed 139 times)
Reply Subj: Re: SI starting points?
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 01:45:17 am EDT (Viewed 138 times)

> > But I would tend to think that the Dugan shown in WO was a skrull
> > since he died in the story, but was fully recovered in his next
> > appearance without any explanation. Skrulls who replaced characters
> > have been shown to have "died" on several occasions only to come
> > back without any explanation.
> I find it impossible to reconcile this. Far too much happened after that story. IMO, Daken has to have taken place well before Cap's death.

There were 6 issues between Dugans death in WO (#10) and when Civil War was referenced in WO (#16).

> In fact, Quesada even said in an interview afterwards that Dugan survived Daken's attack.

Exactly. "He" did survive the attack. If Quesada knew he was a skrull (and he would have) he would have said the same thing. One of the things Marvel told us to look for to detect a skrull was to look at any unexplained resurrections.

> > > Pym was replaced before New Avengers began, sometime
> > > between Avengers Finale and Beyond!.
> >
> > No. According to Mighty Avengesr, Pym was replaced sometime after
> > New Avengers (the team) began, but before House of M. That would put
> > it somewhere between NA issues 3? and 12? (approximately). we know
> > that the real Hank Pym was active during the NA Breakout story
> > because we see him reacting to the event.
> There's a conflict. In New Avengers, immediately after the breakout, the Queen meets with Skrull Hank.

I was wrong when I said (the team).

There was an unspecified amount of time between issues 3 (the breakout) and issues 4 (the team getting together) of NA.

When the breakout occurred, Hank Pym was in England (as seen in MA). He was replaced in England. We can assume that Skrull-Pym came back to America right after replacing the original. Perhaps to be closer to the action, and since there would be no reason for him to remain in England.

> Whoops. Yeah, I meant Millar's run.

Again, we were suppose to be paying attention to unexplained deaths and resurrections, so it makes sense for her replacement to occure then. But we will find out soon enough.