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mjyoung

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Blue Beetle

Subj: Disagree, Re: Fave Character + Good Art = Must Buy?
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 02:11:49 am EDT (Viewed 86 times)
Reply Subj: Fave Character + Good Art = Must Buy?
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 08:19:06 pm EDT (Viewed 133 times)


> Fave Character + Good Art = Must Buy
>
> How many of us choose our comics based on that equation? I've begun to think a lot of people do, though not necessarily the sort who post on message boards.
> What's missing from the equation? Writing! And that's my point. I've begun to think the subject matter (fave character) and the visual appeal (good art) are by far the most important factors in most people's buying decision, with the writing a distant third.

I don't really think that's the case at all. I think for most readers, it's 1)character, 2) writer, 3) artist.

> Nowadays there are writers who are so obviously inferior to their peers, for example Loeb, that I tend to think I need to be selective in that area. Yet people buy Loeb's books and don't complain, probably because he always is blessed with a popular artist and popular subject matter.

That's not really the case. Loeb has written some great stories (according to the majority of fans), and has only recently been delivering some bad stories. Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Man for All Seasons, Superman/Batman, color minis, and many more were all well received by the fans. Compare that to the Ultimates and Red Hulk, the only stories so far that have been bad.

But I would certainly agree that the characters he writes and the artists he works with has helped sell the comics. I just don't think it's accurate to dismiss him entirely.

> Most of the time, if I choose books by character and art, I think I'll enjoy the books I end up with. I just won't buy anything by Loeb or mandated by JoeQ. Everything else should be fine.
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> Comments?

There might be a few cases where your idea is true, I think its a very small number.

There are certain writers who the fans like that always sell great, regardless of the artists attached, examples would include Bendis, Johns, Brubaker, Morrison, and many others. On the other hand, you have popular artists that don't sell very well when attached to bad writers, like Perez on Brave and the Bold.

New and Mighty Avengers is going to (I think) have Billy Tan and Khoi Pham as the new regular artist. Those series will continue to sell because of the characters, and because of the writer.

Another example would be the current JLA series. The series has had the same artist on (Benes) with the same characters, but when Meltzer left, the book dropped in sales. The only change was the writer.

Or you could look at creator owned comics. Those are always promoted by the name of the writer instead of the artist. BKV's Y the Last Man and Ex Machina, Ennis's Preacher, Gaimen's Sandman, etc.

The current Buffy series is a perfect example of my ranking system. Buffy is the primary selling point, but having writers like Whedon and BKV is the second selling point. Georges Jeanty was a mediocre artist (in terms of sells).


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