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Reply Subj: best villain plot?
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 01:52:33 pm EDT

> Which plot by a marvel villain do you think was the "best"? im not sure how to define "best" in this instance. i guess it could be the cleverest or most original. or the one that made you say "thats a good idea, it could work" and maybe even should have.
> to throw in my idea, i think helmut zemos master of evil seige on avengers mansion was pretty brilliant (in an evil way of course).
> any other plots (big or small) that made you go "wow, thats good (in an evil way)"?

With apologies, some are not exactly Marvel comics but here's some plots that I feel stand out:

Bane freeing the insane inmates of Arkham to wear down the Batman and then, when he was exhausted, break him.

Kraven's last hunt as others suggested.

Yes, the seige of the Avengers mansion as you suggested.

Iron Man's manipulations to make the SHRA a reality (sorry true believers, even if Marvel says he isn't, he's a bad guy). He got the power he wanted, took away people's basic human rights and thus eliminated the majority of his opposition, AND he got the government to sign off on it and make him out to be a hero despite his treachery. Cite all the gray areas of right and wrong that you want, THAT'S evil at it's finest.

Dr Doom stipulating the he name the Richard's daughter (may not seem like much, but in the long run, they'll always know who named her - their mortal enemy - now that's some sweet evil justice) - Valeria.

In the same vein, Mr Fear permanently driving Matt Murdoch's wife Milla insane. Thus etching a place in his foe's memory forever.

Of course, Kingpin systematically destroyed Matt's life (and thus Daredevil's) as Doc Shallot suggested

Both the smartest and yet also the dumbest "plot" was Lex Luthor gathering intel and data to figure out who Superman is. Once the inevitable conclusion that Supes was Clark Kent came across, Luthor then dismissed it, saying that Superman wouldn't pass himself off as human.

Britney Spears getting people to think she has or even HAD talent.

Terminator planting Terra on the Titans to learn their secrets.

Lyja, posing as Alicia to infiltrate and spy on the FF, even switching to seduce Johnny when Ben Grimm left the team temporarily. This of course supercedes the current Skrull invasion, which is a similar idea with grander reprecussions. Best part about this plot is that, i'm fairly sure, it was all a retcon to undo Johnny Storm's marriage to Alicia.

Galactus confining Silver Surfer to Earth. When all was said and done, it was poetic revenge for SS's "betrayal." Even more amusing was the solution, given years later, that he could have left all along, as long as he went without his board.

Red Skull managing to survive another one of his supposed deaths by inhabiting a clone of Steve Rogers body.

My all-time non-comics favorite:
Hans Gruber and his thugs posing as terrorists when in reality they were just using terrorism as a smoke screen and really stealing money in Die Hard

I'm having a hard time coming up with a best bad guy plot from the X-Men books....surely there must be a few?

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