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Jase

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mjyoung

Subj: Re: Thing #6
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 at 08:43:42 pm EDT (Viewed 64 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Thing #6
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 at 02:31:37 pm EDT (Viewed 71 times)



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        I think there are some good ideas, mixtures of niches and characters that can work. I think the Thing could have a good enough series if it was a "Marvel Team Up" book. I think the horror and magic characters could be a good mix.

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        You mean "Marvel Two-In-One", don't you? MTU focuses on Spidey.



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    Well I was only using "MTU" to mean "team up of two heroes". I thought Marvel Team up was the better representation for that idea. The last two versions of MTU didn't feature Spider-Man as a character, but both went with the revolving two guest stars.



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    I think a Thing Team up title can work. Slott tried to do this somewhat on his run, but I think he made a few mistakes. Use the title to the clearer and more popular title "Marvel Team Up" so fans easily understand it's not a Thing solo series, but a team up book. Use more popular heroes (no Constrictor or Black Goliath), tell simplistic stories, etc.



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    I think there are really only 4 or so heroes who can do this kind of book: Spider-Man, Captain America, Wolverine, and the Thing. You need a character that is popular with the fans, has a friendly attitude, has alot of connections to the other popular characters, etc.



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    It would be better to use a character with limited exposure currently, so probably not someone in the New Avengers or with multiple books.



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    With the Thing, you give the character and the FF more exposure, something both of them need. The FF has trouble branching out, with a second ongoing always having trouble (Slott's Thing, Tsunami Human Torch title, Fantastic Force, MK4).


It doesn't help that a lot of those spin-offs were poorly executed. Slott's Thing series was actually pretty good, w/ a little tweaking(basically resurrecting the old MTiO but updating it for today) and more of a commitment from Marvel, we might still have a Thing title today.

With the Human Torch, it really didn't help that they tried to sell it under their poorly executed, so-called 'manga' line, and MK4 had to live down the stigma of being what Jemas wanted to replace Waid & Wieringo with.

As for Fantastic Force, I don't know about the new series, but the original didn't come out during a particularly good time for comics, and even the writer admits those were some bad comics.

I think if the Fantastic Four finds itself having trouble branching out with auxiliary books, it's because the FF as a concept doesn't lend itself well to having satellite books.


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    The Thing isn't popular enough to carry a title on his name alone. So you've got to mix it up, and give him a better chance of success. You want to stay "true" to the character, so probably no "The Thing MAX" title. Another option for the character might be a "Human Torch and the Thing" buddy comedy book, but that has it's own risks.


Yeah, one of the primary being that you can get the same dynamic from the actual F4 title.



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