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Subj: Echoing bd2999
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 at 02:57:27 pm EDT (Viewed 71 times)
Reply Subj: Re: time for some tears
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 at 09:47:05 pm EDT (Viewed 15 times)


Not adding, just agreeing. As far as 'well written'.. sales are not indicative of how well something is written, unfortunately, and there's little I've read that is well done as Nova or GotG.

One big difference between Annihilation and War of Kings: In the first story we saw what were usually considered to be enemies.. like Klrt and Ronan, stepping up as heroic figures. In WoK it's more or less the same expected playig field of good guys. with folks like lack Bolt seeming not as 'good' as we're used to. I think that pulls some of the appreciation of the story away. But the WRITING is divine \:\)


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        WOK is interesting but i found it not as great as the annihilations, maby it's because i'm not an x-fan or maby i just miss the cosmic charecters that took a back seat in the story.
        i'm not sure but it's just not that good.

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        It's not a good series, and I blame the writing team.

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          Annihilation was a success primarily because the original editor involved, Andy Schmidt, had a good take on the characters. After he left Marvel, the line has never been the same.



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    Andy was a great guy, got to chat with him on some boards. Knows his stuff well, it was a shame he moved off of the cosmic stuff, but the writters are important too. Keith Giffen got the characters he was working with.



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      A huge problem with the current situation is the writers. I firmly beleive that they shouldn't be in charge of both cosmic titles, in the same way that I don't think Bendis should have written both New and Mighty Avengers.



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    I could sort of agree, but Bendis really is not a great writter. I think DnA is very good. Just the cosmic events like Conquest and War of Kings are not universe shattering events at their core so not going to be as interesting to some folks.



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      GotG and Nova aren't great books, and their sales are a great illustration of that. These books aren't "going unappreciated" as many people like to think, they aren't underrated. They are placed at the level they deserve.



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    And here I disagree with you alot. Nova and GotG are exceptional titles. In terms of art, story, overall driving force and interest they are exceptional. Numerous reviewers accross the webs have said the same thing that they are among the best comics out there right now. The sales numbers are not often indicative of the quality of a book either. You can always bet that Spider-man or X-men will be at the top even if the stories happening are terrible. The current Hulk series is terrible but it always sells well, does that mean its a better innate book? I dont think so.



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    The fact of the matter is that even the first Annihilation that about everyone love did not sell that great either. It was middle of the pack in terms of the charts, still good but not exceptional. Cosmic books dont have the audience that other Marvel titles do, there is a base for it, a strong base for certain characters, but they will never have the appeal of more Earth based heros. Silver Surfer is probably the most popular of the cosmic heros that is known by a wide audience and he has not had a title in a long while. The current Nova series by default is the most successful solo run the character has ever had, before this it only broke 10 I believe. Not a high bar but it still made it. I think you should read the book, andgive it a chance.



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      These books are simply "good" reads, but aren't great.



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    Point me something that Marvel is making that is better than Nova? Other titles tend to be dull. As much as I adore the Avengers those titles have been on downward spirals and need major events to drive them to any real success it seems.







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