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Subj: Cartoon Voice-Casting Call 2: Avengers Assemble!
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 11:28:47 pm EDT (Viewed 83 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Voice-Casting the Thor Cartoon
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 at 02:16:09 pm EDT (Viewed 107 times)
Quote:I've been sick of it since Daredevil, to be honest. It was a waste when they did it to Spider-Man, Steve Rogers arguably(and I stress 'arguably') doesn't need one, but Iron Man in particular was more interesting with it than he is without it IMHO. While there's always a certain amount of contrivance when heroes w/ secret identities interact w/ the same individuals in and out of costume, w/ Stark posing as his own employee, he HAD to interact w/ a lot of the same people, which could lead to very interesting character interactions. There's still a lot of untapped potential in that set-up, IMO.
With Iron Man the secret ID was more of a hindrance than a benefit, but that was mainly given the way he set it up ( your bodyguard's almost never seen with you? Seriously? ). If he had given Iron Man a different " job ", then it could've worked a lot better; in fact, I think that there's something lost to the character when everyone knows it's Tony's face behind the metal mask.
Quote:I'll admit, not every hero needs that, though. The Fantastic Four are the greatest successful example of public identity superheroes. The fugitive aspect to the Hulk actually works a lot better w/ the knowledge of Banner = Hulk in the public domain. I also think there might be some mileage in that actor/superhero thing Wonder Man has going for him.
I'm more peeved by the fact that the X-Men have jumped on it, especially since the San Fransisco move. It works better for Xavier to be an outed mutant than a faux-human mutant rights pundit, and there's definitely room for an authorized mutant hero team, but not what we're getting now with shiny happy mutant models deliberately posing for the cameras.
Quote:That's true, but it's just such a small aspect to Thor to try and utilize for his first feature film. I'm not opposed to people being skeptical as to Thor's claims of godhood, but without the Ultimates/Avengers as a supporting cast, to try and rest the foundation of the movie upon that, that's what I'm against - it's like a house with a foundation of sand.
Fair enough, just that Thor would be a harder sell than any of the Marvel heroes put on film to date, and playing the Norse Gods on Earth totally straight would be very difficult.
Quote:Still, that's not to say they CAN'T do the movie w/ the god Thor wandering the streets of Manhattan most the time. It's difficult IMO, but not impossible. Like this scene from the criminally underrated Whom The Gods Would Destroy -
That's a great scene, but it does illustrate why god Thor in public would be a hard sell; he's a Class 100 Strength Sore Thumb, no matter how many ice cream vendors he frequents.
Quote:That's ok, even Thor can't make heads or tails of the Ultimate U anymore -
Ha ha! Though I have to admit I'm looking forward to the Millar/Pacheco Ultimate Avengers, especially for Gregory Stark. Then again, that's because the Ultimate books are being scaled down and returned to their original architects, as opposed to " classic Marvel - classic + crack ".
Strangely the thing that bothered me the most about Ultimates 3 wasn't the horrible story or horrible art, but the fact that Iron Man ditched the Ultimate armor for a look that was basically a straight translation of his 616 armor. I loved the Ultimate suit, even if I wouldn't make it the mainline Iron Man's design ( mainly because Ultimate Tony's tech is far, far behind Marvel Universe Tony's, having to store the suit in a silo instead of a suitcase ), but it was very unique and impressive, and putting UIM in simple shiny red and gold tights felt like a slap in the face.
Quote:Wheaton might not be bad. I actually think there are a lot of great choices for Balder out there. I almost think Crispin Freeman, Brad Swaile, or Kyle Hebert could do a good job too.
They all could to the job, but these anime dub voice actors get so type cast to one role that it's hard for me to envision them as much else. I just had an image of Balder screaming " Just Who The Hell Do You Think I Am?! " to Loki a la Hebert's Kamina from Gurren Lagann.
Quote:I also like Clancy Brown(Lex Luthor, Gorrath) for Skurge. Come on, he was The Kurgan!
Clancy Brown excels at the Bald Bastard voice, so he'd be a great choice.
Quote:Jormungand the Midgard Serpent - I think Doug Erholtz or Liam O'Brien could be interesting as Loki's largest child.
Liam O'Brien excels at monster voices, good choice.
Quote:Beta Ray Bill - Let's say Michael Dorn.
He's well known for playing the strong warrior with the less-than-attractive face.
Quote:I have. I really like the first page w/ Jiro and Jens, probably the best first page yet. And your crew looks pretty boned at the end!
Thanks. Splash pages are very difficult to pull off, so I'm glad I did it effectively from your perspective.
As for other voices, here's what I've got for the Avengers ( current line-up );
Captain America ( Steve Rogers ): Garry Chalk ( Optimus Primal, Man-At-Arms )
Iron Man: David Kaye ( did an excellent job of Tony on that episode of the recent Fantastic Four 'toon, does a good metallic-toned hero with Optimus Prime in the current Transformers catoon, does just as excellent a metallic-toned fascist with Beast Wars/Machines Megatron if they do a Civil War cartoon )
Wasp: Grey DeLisle ( did a good job of her in the Ultimate Avengers OVAs )
Ms. Marvel: Debi Mae West ( Meryl Silverburgh in the Metal Gear Solid games, Tsunade in Naruto )
Cage: Khary Peyton ( Cyborg in the Teen Titans cartoon, Bishop in the X-Men Legends games )
Spider-Woman: Venus Terzo ( Blackarachnia in Beast Wars/Machines )
Iron Fist: Johnny Yong Bosch ( former Red Ranger, now known for Vash, Ichigo, Sid, and other animation heroes )
Captain America ( Bucky ): Yuri Lowenthal ( does a lot of mature-sounding young men, most notably Sasuke Uchiha )
Sentry: George Newburn ( Superman in the JL cartoons; no coincidence to the choice )
Wolverine: Steve Blum, and anyone who suggests otherwise is objectively wrong
Spider-Man: Neil Patrick Harris ( was the only good thing about the MTV Spidey toon, and would do a job that would be Legen--wait for it--Dary! )
Any others to fill out/edit the list?
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