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Jase

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Nitz the Bloody

Subj: Re: Good standalone trades?
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 01:05:02 pm EDT (Viewed 74 times)
Reply Subj: Good standalone trades?
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 06:32:25 pm EDT (Viewed 113 times)



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    DC has the advantage that most of their A-Listers have been around longer and have starred in more popular media, but those media work by utilizing the elegant simplicity of the concepts. Batman is marvelously suited for versatility as far as heroes go, everything from the Dark Knight to the current Brave and the Bold cartoon.


I think Batman owes a lot of his longevity to that versatility of presentation. And while I agree DC has(had?) an advantage in that it's been doing mass media presentations of its characters longer than Marvel, they've made some great strides in catching up w/ their recent movie success.


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    Marvel tends to have heroes who are not so easy to define, which has the advantage of meaning that we get more complex characters ( after all, who ever accused Superman of being a deep hero with ethical conflicts? ), but it also means that they're harder to distill. Of course, a big disadvantage Marvel has is that their catalog of back material is much more convoluted; Batman has stuff like Year One and The Long Halloween and The Killing Joke, but I can't think of a good " done in one " classic collection for, say, Thor. Thor's greatest stories from the Kirby and Simonson respective eras tend to be long serials, so there's a dearth of " gateway " material.


That's true. In comparison, there are more Killing Jokes, Year Ones, even Hawkworlds, that you can point out to someone, whereas w/ Marvel it's a little more, 'check out the Byrne FF run, or Simonson Thor run, or Miller on DD'.


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    I don't want to give a concrete answer for how to get new readers to read superhero comics, as it's a very layered problem for Marvel and DC. But I do think that DC has better entry points. If you like Batman and you like Frank Miller, there's Dark Knight Returns, Year One, and Dark Knight Strikes Again/All Star Batman and Robin if you're into masochistic reading. Marvel heroes could use more of those; telling a new reader that they have to start from the first Essential of Spider-Man or even the first trade of Ultimate Spider-Man can be daunting.


I suppose, but is it really that different with us with our Naruto and Bleach?


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    EDIT: Also, thank you for responding to the new comics \:\)


No problem.




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