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Subj: Re: Finally Marvel 'gets it'... supporting solo books with team books...
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 07:52:09 pm EDT (Viewed 15 times)
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 03:34:53 am EDT (Viewed 123 times)

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    I am stoked, I have been a fan of this concept for a while... all these characters (Punisher, Moon Knight, Shroud, Elektra, Paladin, Silver Sable, Ghost Rider, Iron Fist, Falcon, Misty Knight) either have or had their own on-going or mini or were a core character in a team book. As second-tier characters, they struggled to gain or maintain a big enough audience to keep a book going...

I'm a huge fan of the concept of taking B-list characters and putting them into a single team title. I have the same exact idea as you have for the Supernatural Defenders team . But I think it only works when you take a single genre and replicate this. I think the blueprint should be the first Annihilation series. Create a meaningful and quality event, showcase individual characters that team up to beat the bad guy. Spin out a title. Long term you give those characters exposure with the ability to spin out character-specific miniseries, appearances in other titles, and possibly ongoings.

So while I think it would work for a supernatural and even cosmic title, I don't think it would work for a street level title. Street level stories aren't underrepresented, and it's a story type that works great for certain characters like Daredevil and Batman. I don't think Street level is really an unrepresented genre onto itself.

For this specific title, it's destined to fail. DnA and Walker haven't been able to prove they can sustain an ongoing for very long. There doesn't seem to be a true core cast with the revolving door policy of it's members. The only thing the members have in common is that they are B-listers (Ghost Rider, Elektra, Punisher) with several failed series mixed with C-listers that can't hold a story on their own (Misty Knight, Paladin, Shroud). Some of these characters don't exactly have a background with street level stories; Falcon is much more used in SHIELD type stories batting robots while Ghost Rider fights demons. And the reality is that not only is a "non-team" a stupid concept, it's one that fans don't like.

I'm in favor of street level heroes teaming up to face a threat, I just think it works much better in limited stories and not ongoings.

I'm really amazed that Marvel just doesn't go back to an Iron Fist and Luke Cage based team. Just use this same concept but replace it with more popular characters. Luke and Danny should be the ones hiring heroes to do specific missions. Rotate members based on set story lengths against specific threats. One example would be Cage and Fist hire Cap and the Falcon to take on Hydra. Or Gambit and Rogue to steal something. Use the "couple" relationship when selecting heroes: Wolverine/Nightcralwer, Colossus/Shadowcat, Beast/Wonderman, Hawkeye/Mockingbird, Thing/Torch, Spidey/Black Cat, Deadpool/Cable, and so on.

This was partially done with the Midnight Sons about a year and a half ago in Marvel Zombies 4. The team consisted of Morbius, Werewolf by Night, Jennifer Kale, Simon Garth(Zombie)and Hellstorm. They operated under A.R.M.O.R which stands for Alternate Reality Monitoring and Operational Response. I thought it had a lot of potential since they were dealing with a part of the Marvel Universe that gets neglected(The Supernatural). I guess the mini didn't do to well so this concept wasn't followed up on in another mini. Unfortunately in today's market a series like this wouldn't make it before being canceled by Marvel.

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