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mjyoung

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The Black Guardian
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Subj: Re: Don't get too excited about the new H4H Series (semi spoilers)
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 07:07:48 pm EST (Viewed 316 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Don't get too excited about the new H4H Series (semi spoilers)
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 05:55:17 pm EST (Viewed 331 times)



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    The idea behind this book seems to be using all of the "Marvel Knights" characters that seem to be floundering on their own. Marvel seems to be hoping that their fans will follow them to create a series that sells enough. I don't think that's going to work because I think they all have the same fans. But throw in DnA's popularity, and it might work.


What popularity? They are 20K sellers.

It's hard to understand Marvel's logic here. I don't think they are banking on specific characters, since the title doesn't seem to have a stable cast. Is Falcon a team member or just going to make an occasional appearance? One of the ideas behind the series is that specific characters are going to rotate in and out of a story. So why would a fan of the Falcon stick around when the character makes an appearance every few issues? A title needs to have consistency with it's characters. The book needs a core.

Marvel seems to be banking on the HFH brand and the idea that these types of characters can support a monthly book as a loose team. But it's not going to work.


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    I don't see Pepper Potts doing anything like this. This is street stuff. She's not as interesting of a character as Misty, either, so I'm glad of that. I also consider Misty to be bigger than Colleen. There's another way to look at that Shadowland thing: Misty was part of the main attraction, but Colleen was part of a secondary story.


Well I think Potts had the same role in the Order. And again, with Potts' movie success this is the time to try to branch her out from being directly tied to Iron Man. Plus this gives you a title that's associated with the Iron Man brand, instead of doing titles like Iron Man Legacy or Iron Man 2.0.

I don't remember Misty having a prominent role in the main Shadowland event, but she was a co-star in the Blood on the Streets mini series, while Collen got her own title in the Daughters of the Shadow.


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    However, I do hope Misty doesn't stay on the sidelines. I hope this phantom pregnancy ends quickly. Keep in mind that this "Oracle" stuff doesn't seem to be her plan. When the first arc is done, there is liable to be a change.


But the idea that she's behind the scenes is the whole reason for their being a title, how it separates itself from other similar teams and titles. Are they really going to change it after the first arc?


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    No, you probably couldn't call up more popular heroes. More popular heroes aren't likely to do this kind of work.


Why not? If you call up Wolverine, is he really not going to help? Deadpool is already takes jobs for money. As far as motivations go, I don't see a difference between the Falcon and Spider-Man.




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