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Subj: Re: Which super villains do you think are broken and how would you fix them?
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 at 04:47:05 pm EST (Viewed 221 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Which super villains do you think are broken and how would you fix them?
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 at 11:28:04 am EST (Viewed 263 times)




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      Which super villains do you think are broken and how would you fix them? Which super villains do think are in rut, story wise and how would you get them out of it?



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    The Mandarin - Iron Man is one of Marvel's biggest heroes, and the Mandarin is his clear top villain. Yet the Mandarin is a character that IMO never really fit as Iron Man's foe with his mystical nature. He's also lacked a clear and good purpose as a villain. What's his motivation? A goal like "ruling the world" is both cliched and stupid.
        The first thing that should change is his motivation, or at least this should be clear to the reader what his actual goal is: to be rich. Of the countless major villains we've seen, we don't really have any bad guys that just want to get rich. This would make him a natural rival of Starks, who is basically Marvel's richest hero. The Mandarin would also be in control of a vast corporate empire with a interest in technology based companies, again making him a natural rival of Starks. We've also seen the emersion of Asian companies dominating the technology market, which would be compared to the American technology of Tony Stark.
        The next step would be to build up his henchmen, as Mandarin vs. Stark fights are only interesting to a point. Using the technology from his rings, the Mandarin would create powerful henchmen based on the powers of the rings. This would be a good way to incorporate the older villains from Iron Man's rogues gallery and revamp them. Suddenly a villain like Firebrand is much more powerful with technology from the Flame Blast Ring.


I'm not sure the Mandarin should want to do that. Giving someone else you tech means that they (or more probably Stark) would get the chance to study and develop countermeasures for it in the (probable) event that Firebird ever got captured.

But the Mandarin needs to have his look changed just a little bit. IMHO, the first thing that needs to be done is: Give him a bigger weapon!   Nothing says martial arts warlord like a large weapon.  A large weapon says that you mean business! 
It might be a bō staff, (or more precisely, a kon, to use the Chinese word), or a sword, etc.   It should also have the properties of Mandarin being able to channel his rings energies through it.    In fact the Remaker (matter re-arranger) ring should be able to change it from one weapon to another at lighting speed.



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    The Jackal - While Marvel has the Thinkerer, who for the most part is the technology guru for villains, there needs to be genetic counterpart for the villains as well. The Jackal would be perfect for this role, where he is a natural fit to give genetic enchancements to characters, heal them, clone them, etc. Want to explain a bad guy acting out of character? One of the Jackal's clones. Want to explain how a character is ressurected without explanation? One of the Jackal's clones.

I'm not sure about that.  Clones have been done to death.   But other than that, I like the idea of having someone do for villains on a biological level what guys like the Tinkerer does for them on a technical level.    I would, however, add the stipulation that whoever wants to have a supervillain army would probably want that army controlled.   So yeah, someone like the Jackal can make superhuman enhancements for those thugs, but he would include a way to turn those enhancements off or on.


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    Taskmaster - Take him back to the Udon costume, and make him a mercenary for hire again. He doesn't need to be a true bad guy.

We'll IIRC, he never wanted to be a "big bad" sort of villain.  He was always happy training henchmen, with made him kind of neat.   The way his motovatioins played out, he didn't actually fail at being a bad guy.   He just provides services to bad guys, the way the Tinkerer did.  But that being said, I liked what happened to him during Siege.  It's interesting to take characters (including the villains) and see what happens to them when they are placed in situations way beyond their comfort level.


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    Venom - Go back to Eddie Brock. He's the ideal Venom for most fans, and gets rid of the stupid Anti-Venom character.


No make Kaine (Peter Parker's surviving clone) the next Venom.   Get rid of Eddie Brock altogether.






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