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The Overlord

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The Mandarin

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Subj: Perhaps the best way to make Mandarin different from Apocalypse is to give Mandarin more noble aspects
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 at 09:28:51 pm EST (Viewed 194 times)
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      They've already given him an excellent motivation: social darwinism. He believes that the strong should thrive and the weak should perish and that the world should work in a way that promotes this.

    So he's Apocalypse?

He was created decades before Apocalypse.


      Making him all about getting rich would not work for this character, because it would contradict what we already know about him: he loves to fight, he is obsessed with achieving perfection of mind and body, and he despises weakness. Being all about getting rich implies laziness, and works better for a character with a more slothful visual and abilities like the Slug. The Mandarin has an athletic visual, and his abilities, genius intellect and inhuman martial arts ability, lend themselves much more to a social darwininian character than to a greedy character.

    Even with your answer, and I think it's safe to assume that you are big fan of the character, you can't give a consistent or even good answer to what his motivations are. Nor did you really give a reason why he's a natural fit to be Iron Man's main foe. And that's part of the reason why the character is such a B-lister.

In your opinion.

Perhaps the best way to make Mandarin different from Apocalypse is to give Mandarin more noble aspects. Apocalypse is more or less pure evil and seems to capable of great sadism, one almost wonders whether Apocalypse simply uses social Darwinism as an excuse to engage in his personal dark impulses. Mandarin however, during the Knauf arc, was willing to kill himself if it making the human race stronger, it made him a little more relatable and little less like some pure evil monster. I think should develop that aspect of personality.