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jwmccay3

Subj: Re: 90s Heroes Reborn
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 10:34:51 am EDT (Viewed 182 times)
Reply Subj: 90s Heroes Reborn
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 07:43:10 am EDT (Viewed 321 times)




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    Okay, so let me first off state that Heroes Reborn did stink like last month's garbage, but I do have to say that the Marvel Universe that remained might have been better had there been new incarnations of the teams that were wiped out and could have set up interesting storylines when the original heroes returned.


I wouldn't go so far as to say the Heroes Reborn titles "stunk", both Iron Man and Fantastic Four were commendable relaunches that felt very fresh and energentic, it was more the Rob Liefeld books that let the side down, though if you were new I think you might have embraced even these two books as well as the rest. I think on reflection the Heroes Reborn experiement was highly influential as it showed what these old characters could be like if brought right up to date and launched afresh with no baggage. I don't think it's an exaggeration to suggest the Ultimate universe is indebted to what Jim Lee, Whilce Portacio & Liefeld tried out back then...

Looking back to the effects on the Marvel Universe itself though you do get the imppression the extraction of their premier Avengers line up should have led to a major shift in the X-Men's role therein. Once second tier to the Avengers they ere now left as the premier heroic force on earth, the likes of Magneto and Apocalypse would not have to worry about any Avengers interfering and would have felt the way was wide open for a major move on taking global power. So in effect it would be the X-Men under even more pressure than before as earth's mightiest deterrent had all been killed off in one stroke thanks to Onslaught. I never felt the ramifications of that were exploited as they could have been. For another example - The Hulk. A new and much more unpredictable Hulk had been left behind, dangerous in the sense he had no moral compass guiding him any more and was happy to indulge his appetite for power to its full extent, taking over the Florida Keys was one expression of that but you get the sense from that run that he was nearer a villain than any other incarnation bar The Maestro. He was another dangerous legacy of the expulsion of earths greatest heroes as there was no one left who could really stand up to him if he went on a sustained rampage or crusade...

In restrospect it is hard to understand perhaps why it wasn't the case a new Avengers took the place of their fallen comrades, I think Wonderman was still active for example and we know Black Widow Hank Pym and Monica Rambeu were around so a new line up was perfectly feasable. Who knows, if there was an event big enough maybe the threat would have triggered a new team, but Heroes Reborn only lasted over a year in real time.



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