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Reverend Meteor

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Grey Gargoyle

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Subj: Re: Achilles' heel
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 04:55:43 pm EDT (Viewed 244 times)
Reply Subj: Achilles' heel
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 06:58:15 am EDT (Viewed 232 times)



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      But the people you listed have been shown to be invulnerable.

    I am looking for their kryptonite.
    There is always an Achilles' heel.
    Even Adamantium can be destroyed if you have access to the correct technology.
    It is very difficult but it is possible.



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    Electrokinesis or magnetokinesis would seem logical if some kind of ionization process is involved.



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      I think the current understanding is that Simon is sentient energy that looks like a human being but isn't



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    Yes, like Electro (since the Gauntlet), the Living Laser (probably, between Iron Man 153 and 211), the Living Lightning (in Avengers West Coast) and Ion (in Machine Man 15) ?



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    Both Electro & Living Lightning can turn into sentient electric plasma.



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    The body of Voletta Todd (Ion) is composed of living ionized gas and she can manipulate electromagnetic energy.



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    The Living Laser has become some kind of sentient "coherent light".



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    In my opinion, all these characters are not truly "immortal".



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    Their energy cannot be destroyed or created but their "self-awareness" can be.



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    Especially if they are against somebody with the psionic power of "electromagnetic-kinesis".



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      Lastly let's be honest Wonder Man's powers clearly aren't ionic. That's the term they use in the comics but ions are what happens when an atom gets more or less electrons than it's supposed to have which is important chemistry wise (because chemistry deals with the outer electron shells) but Wonder Man apparently doesn't affect the chemical properties of things and Electro for the most part doesn't either.






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      I'm guessing you're not really asking IF it's possible for Wonder Man to be killed by Electro (I think most of us here agree he can't).

    I don't want Electro to kill Wonder Man, Atlas or Nefaria but I think he can.
    It doesn't matter if I am one of the few who believes it on the board.
    I don't believe that "Ionic people" are as invulnerable as they seem to be.
    Even Superman has limits and even Sentry can be stopped.
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        You're really asking HOW would Electro kill Wonderman.

      Yes, I do.
      If I find a way to explain how Electro would kill Wonder Man, then, yes, it answers my question, he can do it.
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          The only way I can think Electro could do that is find a way to make Wonder Man's body lose cohesion or find a way to de-ionize every atom that constitutes Wonder Man.



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    Perhaps, ...or he would feed on the powerhouse of Ionic people like he would, if he was near a nuclear reactor.
    ... or he would even deplete them or absorb their energy.


But Electro absorbs electricity. Wonder Man's energy powers aren't electric (he isn't a stream of electrons). If we take Marvel at their word that somehow Wondy's powers really are "ionic" then he's flinging around charged atoms with more than normal or less than normal numbers of electrons...but that isn't the same thing as flinging around a concentrated stream of electrons. Electro can't absorb all that proton and neutron goodness that come along with atoms.


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    It would be like what green kryptonite radiation, red sun radiation or the parasite do to Superman.


Wonder Man's weakness is like you said that if you disrupt his physical form you kill him (the Kree used a bomb to explode him I think until Wanda pulled him back together again...clearly Wanda is evil). So it can be done. I should clarify my assertion. It's not my assertion that Wonder Man can't be killed. It's my assertion that Electro won't be the one to be able to do it. Could an eternal like Sersi who manipulates matter do it? Sure. Could someone like the absorbing man or the super adaptoid who have experience absorbing multiple types of energy be able to do it? Probably. Can Electro whose power consists of electricity affect Wonder Man whose energy form is not electric and actually kill him? I would still say no.

If Electro starts absorbing ionized atoms and not just electrons then I will consider it.





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