Quote:Interesting topic. Pure conjecture but I like to believe that Byrne was working on connecting Phineas, Toro, Torch, Frankie and Vision. Connecting them all and reimagining how Vision was a torch after all - just not the torch we thought. Was Toro's dad a torch of some sort? Was he reinvented as the Vision? Was the group above members/generations of a family? Don't think we will ever know but it was definitely hinted that Frankie was related to Toro.
Toro's father Fred Raymond was Phineas Horton's lab assistant. He became gravely sick from his work in Phineas lab. Toro's mother Nora Raymond (nÃ©e Jones) was a scientist who became sick from her exposure to radium.