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Ed Love

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The Black Guardian
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Subj: Re: Doctor Strange #1 - Buy it or risk bedevilment!
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 at 10:19:58 pm CDT (Viewed 197 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Doctor Strange #1 - Buy it or risk bedevilment!
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 at 01:52:39 pm CDT (Viewed 193 times)

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    And I absolutely think they are youthifying him. Certainly in look, I miss those grey temples. What's more the dialogue seemed like something a 30 year old might say.

Eh. It seemed very much like things I always say. And I'm 50. I've seen other people say he's acting "hipster," but I don't get that either. Everything he says seems rather normal... and not especially youthful. In fact, just the opposite. "Youthful" would have been a lot more colloquial and slang, which he definitely does not sound like in any panel of this issue.


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    Essentially, my issue comes down to a fundamental disagreement with something one of you two said, that Dr. Strange is the mystical Tony stark. I disagree, he is the polar opposite. Tony is about the material and Doc the immaterial. Doc's origin is about overcoming arrogance, Tony has been arrogant since 1963 and only slows when he is consumed by the drink. Tony is social, Doc is a bit more introverted. Many of these things made him unique among the Marvel universe. And admittedly they have been tugging on that for almost a decade.

Strange has never been an introvert at all. Just because he holes himself up in his sanctum doesn't make him an introvert. His very beginnings were that of a flamboyant surgeon, and while he did get a lesson in humility, those are still his roots. He does still have that arrogance. I never said he was the mystical Tony Stark, but his track record has left a rather big trail of women that rivals Stark's. This is nothing new, and actually you do not see any of that here.

When you're talking serial characters with decades of history, almost all of them have a long history of girlfriends. Even hard luck Peter Parker has a long string of beautiful women... it's a far cry from the characterization here as someone who is "a dog" and has so many casual relationships that his friends rag him about it. Women have been attracted to him, but it doesn't mean he's a Barney Stinson.

Plus, I think it doesn't really fit his basic nature which Aaron seems to miss. His origin wasn't just learning humility, It's a spiritual redemption story: it was learning obtaining enlightenment, sacrifice, and empathy. The whole point is he moved from a shallow, self-interested, self-indulgent person and transformed. The personality given here, from using his magic to read if a girl is into him, proclaiming he needs a drink, they miss a fundamental point of the character.





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