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Reverend Meteor

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Iron Man Unit 007

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Subj: Re: CBR addressed the comic book legend about that page once
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 at 01:13:44 pm EST (Viewed 505 times)
Reply Subj: Re: CBR addressed the comic book legend about that page once
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 at 12:15:37 am EST (Viewed 530 times)

    Well I still hate Bendis, but yes Byrne did lay the groundwork.

    However with all the reboots/retcons, I think we have the Bronze age Vision back, don't we?

    However I still applaud that storyline as it did give us the return of the original Torch as I remembered reading Vision learning his origin from Immortus and wondering just why was Immortus being so kind and that I smelled a long term plan of some kind, as well as the scent of a rat in the form of Immortus.

Yeah I hated the idea of Vision being Jim Hammond. He was nothing like Jim Hammond.

    Of course the problem is that too many writers don't know what to do with the Android Torch so they either blow him up and leave him "dead" for years until an anniversary event brings him back, or they just let him fade into the background since they all seem to think the MU can't have two or more Torches, which makes no sense.

    Multiple Captain Americas: the original, Captain Stevil, the Falcon and USAgent.

    Multiple Iron Man: the original plus War Machine

    Multiple THOR: original, the current fake-THOR, Beta Ray Bill

    Multiple Hulks: original, Cho, Red Hulk, She Hulk, Red She hulk, Abomination, A-Bomb....

    As to Wanda loving the Vision yet not loving Wonder Man for so long, that also made little sense to me. Vision's mind is Simon Williams brain waves copied into Vision's brain circuits so in effect he was Simon Williams, albeit a copied version that lived his life in an android form, then the original version is mutated into a super hero yet still has the same emotions and thought processes for the most part so Simon loving Wanda made sense.

I always felt Wanda dated Simon because she couldn't really get Vision back. She didn't want the original...she wanted the guy she was married to. I don't buy that she ever loved Simon. Simon's kind of a male bimbo really without any depth.

Vision has some personality traits I guess he got from Simon but his life experiences (including being a robot) are his alone.

Reverend Meteor (not that I liked Wanda with Vision. But Simon's a tool)

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