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Subj: Re: From a creative standpoint what year should Marvel Comics have ENDED?
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 at 11:50:03 am EDT (Viewed 102 times)
Reply Subj: From a creative standpoint what year should Marvel Comics have ENDED?
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 at 07:53:11 pm EDT (Viewed 132 times)

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IMO, superhero comics have nothing new to say story or craft wise and haven't for a while. There is just nothing left after 80+ years. It's all run it's course and then some.

So I got to wondering when would I be comfortable with Marvel just cancelling their lines and calling it a day?

To be clear, I'm not looking for a date for Marvel to end where it would go out on top at it's zenith. That of course would be somewhere in 80s after all those legendary runs.

I'd look for a year by which Marvel has run it's course and ends up on pretty solid ground; a little exhausted, but still standing proud.

Specifically, the end would be Avengers 56 from 2002 which was Busiek's last Avengers issue. Or I could push it to FF 524 from 2005; Waid's last FF ish. At these points (and with Whedon's X-Men) I'd say there is nothing left, but everything is still pretty good.

On an off day, I might say you could wrap it up with Ultimates Vol.2 #13 from 2007. But at that point I think overall the milk has curdled.

That's just my personal feel. How bout you?

***Good argument could be made that 2003 JLA/Avengers serves as good close out point for both DC and Marvel!

I discussed something like this the other day.

There is something to limited runs like anime or manga where the story is told and it ends and it is an advantage for storytellers to leave them wanting more and having an endpoint. But the advantage is you can keep it going.

The market with paper comics will probably kill them before anything and the reason for that decline can be argued.

As for stories, most stories are repetitive when you get right down to it. What is the old addage, man vs man, man vs nature and man vs self or something like that. Lots of alien invasions, monster invasions, looking inside a character and so on. And we can say that it is all the same but the trick is not to always come up with something totally original but telling something in a compelling way.

Don't get me wrong, originality is good and all but comic readers get angry at too much change. We just generally do. So, we encourage alot of the same old sort of thing to come up and then get angry when somebody rocks the boat.

That said there are still alot of bad stories anymore. At least it seems that ways to me. It would be hard for me to pick things, as different events for different characters were more fitting than others for different characters.




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