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Subj: Re: Thoughts on Spiderman 3 {MAJOR MOVIE SPOILERS!!!!}
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 at 12:34:09 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Thoughts on Spiderman 3 {MAJOR MOVIE SPOILERS!!!!}
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 at 10:01:38 am EDT

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> Ok, seriously. Don't spoil yourself. It won't be as good if you do.
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> I'm being serious.
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> Last warning.
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> Ok, here goes.
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> I'm not going to give a complete review because some people love some movies that others hate. Therefore, I'll just say what was good and what wasn't.
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> The good:
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> Gwen Stacy goes on a date with Peter and looks hot. Captain Stacy appears a few times. Sexual tension between Peter and Betty and Jonah is as funny as ever. A Sandman you sort of feel for. Venom looks awesome and is in fact an alien symbiote. Connors examines it.
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> In addition, Harry decides to help Peter in the end as most of us thought he would. However, you really feel glad when it happens. I thought it would come off as predictable and boring but I ended up feeling relieved that they made up. Also, Harry kicks some major arse in this movie. I really hope you get to be him in the game. The Eddie and Peter rivalry was amazing as well. And the fight at the end with Venom was really cool.
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> There was a lot of humor and the action was great. Go see it. i really liked how they worked on MJ's character and the Pete/Harry conflict was pretty cool. I'll have to see it again before I give a complete review but I really thought it completed the series well. Also, I'm glad Pete and MJ didn't get married. They left things open, which is nice considering what happened with Betty and Gwen.
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> The bad:
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> The movie upheld the tradition of corny dialogue that wants to make me hide my face. However, at least in this movie the made it over the top such that it was actually funny. You didn't take it too seriously when Pete starts acting stupid.
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> Ok, one thing people will hate. Sandman did kill Uncle Ben. It was an accident and I was ok with it, but I know people will hate it. The thing, as usual, is how amazingly small the world of Spiderman is. It just happens that a meteor with a symbiotic organism falls right beside the only guy in NYC with super powers. Oh, and the other two people with super powers also know that guy. Oh, and when he decides the get rid of the costume, guess who happens to frequent the church Pete happens to be next to? Oh well, it's a movie.


The good --

- Action and fight sequences well done.
- If you were supposed to hate Peter (or at least think he was a complete jacka$$) when he took on an attitude, then that worked great. Did anyone else feel like saying, "What a pr---!"?
- Casting of Thomas Haden Church as Sandman. I don't think they could've done better.
- The dynamics of Peter & MJ's relationship were handled well. If you've ever been in love and lost, you can identify with a lot of it. Their coming together at the end was done wisely in that you could still feel tension and awkwardness as the picture faded to black.
- When Peter gets rid of the symbiote, it really made me think of the similar scene in the original comic book story.
- The teamwork shown between Peter and Harry in the climactic fight scene was well executed. You could tell these two had been longtime friends and could intuitively know where to go with each other.
- The themes of pride, revenge, responsibility and forgiveness handled in a way that wasn't preachy. All of the Spidey movies are great morality tales and one of the major reasons I'll let my kids watch them over and over again. Aunt May was right in saying that the hardest step is forgiving yourself. I've been there too many times, so it was nice to see that acknowledged on screen in a thoughtful way.
- Bruce Campbell's scene. You're left with the impression he studied a lot of John Cleese bits for this. One of the best parts of the movie!

The bad --

- Jonah NEEDS to have more screen time. He's been one of the best characters in this franchise and it seems he was more an incidental character this time.
- When Harry attacks Sandman in the climax fight, the way it was shown could've been much better. Showing the pumpkin bomb lodged in there kind of ruined the effect.
- No spider sense. None! What gives?
- Too many incidental characters (i.e. Raimi's family and friends).
- Jonah needs more face time. Much more.
- Betty too. ;\)
- The jazz bar scene could've been cut in half and still have been entertaining and effective.
- Did I mention Jonah could use more time on the screen?


All in all, a pretty solid film on the first viewing. I'm seeing it again in a couple days and I get the feeling that this one will get better with each successive viewing since there's so much to glom on to in it. Seeing it at midnight, a time most are not accustomed to viewing major motion pictures, isn't the optimum time to see it due to fatigue and such. I'm looking forward to seeing it again at a time that I'm wide awake and my core processor is functioning properly. I'd like to see the next movie keep MJ as more of a support to Peter's character and have him save someone else at the end for a change. Maybe like the entire Bugle staff? Or at least Jonah?

> > Ok, seriously. Don't spoil yourself. It won't be as good if you do.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm being serious.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Last warning.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, here goes.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not going to give a complete review because some people love some movies that others hate. Therefore, I'll just say what was good and what wasn't.
> >
> > The good:
> >
> > Gwen Stacy goes on a date with Peter and looks hot. Captain Stacy appears a few times. Sexual tension between Peter and Betty and Jonah is as funny as ever. A Sandman you sort of feel for. Venom looks awesome and is in fact an alien symbiote. Connors examines it.
> >
> > In addition, Harry decides to help Peter in the end as most of us thought he would. However, you really feel glad when it happens. I thought it would come off as predictable and boring but I ended up feeling relieved that they made up. Also, Harry kicks some major arse in this movie. I really hope you get to be him in the game. The Eddie and Peter rivalry was amazing as well. And the fight at the end with Venom was really cool.
> >
> > There was a lot of humor and the action was great. Go see it. i really liked how they worked on MJ's character and the Pete/Harry conflict was pretty cool. I'll have to see it again before I give a complete review but I really thought it completed the series well. Also, I'm glad Pete and MJ didn't get married. They left things open, which is nice considering what happened with Betty and Gwen.
> >
> > The bad:
> >
> > The movie upheld the tradition of corny dialogue that wants to make me hide my face. However, at least in this movie the made it over the top such that it was actually funny. You didn't take it too seriously when Pete starts acting stupid.
> >
> > Ok, one thing people will hate. Sandman did kill Uncle Ben. It was an accident and I was ok with it, but I know people will hate it. The thing, as usual, is how amazingly small the world of Spiderman is. It just happens that a meteor with a symbiotic organism falls right beside the only guy in NYC with super powers. Oh, and the other two people with super powers also know that guy. Oh, and when he decides the get rid of the costume, guess who happens to frequent the church Pete happens to be next to? Oh well, it's a movie.
>
>
> The good --
>
> - Action and fight sequences well done.
> - If you were supposed to hate Peter (or at least think he was a complete jacka$$) when he took on an attitude, then that worked great. Did anyone else feel like saying, "What a pr---!"?
> - Casting of Thomas Haden Church as Sandman. I don't think they could've done better.
> - The dynamics of Peter & MJ's relationship were handled well. If you've ever been in love and lost, you can identify with a lot of it. Their coming together at the end was done wisely in that you could still feel tension and awkwardness as the picture faded to black.
> - When Peter gets rid of the symbiote, it really made me think of the similar scene in the original comic book story.
> - The teamwork shown between Peter and Harry in the climactic fight scene was well executed. You could tell these two had been longtime friends and could intuitively know where to go with each other.
> - The themes of pride, revenge, responsibility and forgiveness handled in a way that wasn't preachy. All of the Spidey movies are great morality tales and one of the major reasons I'll let my kids watch them over and over again. Aunt May was right in saying that the hardest step is forgiving yourself. I've been there too many times, so it was nice to see that acknowledged on screen in a thoughtful way.
> - Bruce Campbell's scene. You're left with the impression he studied a lot of John Cleese bits for this. One of the best parts of the movie!
>
> The bad --
>
> - Jonah NEEDS to have more screen time. He's been one of the best characters in this franchise and it seems he was more an incidental character this time.
> - When Harry attacks Sandman in the climax fight, the way it was shown could've been much better. Showing the pumpkin bomb lodged in there kind of ruined the effect.
> - No spider sense. None! What gives?( though they don't explain it in the movie, Venom has never set off spidy's spider sense, which is why he's a great a deadly villan.)
> - Too many incidental characters (i.e. Raimi's family and friends).
> - Jonah needs more face time. Much more.
> - Betty too. ;\)
> - The jazz bar scene could've been cut in half and still have been entertaining and effective.
> - Did I mention Jonah could use more time on the screen?
>
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> All in all, a pretty solid film on the first viewing. I'm seeing it again in a couple days and I get the feeling that this one will get better with each successive viewing since there's so much to glom on to in it. Seeing it at midnight, a time most are not accustomed to viewing major motion pictures, isn't the optimum time to see it due to fatigue and such. I'm looking forward to seeing it again at a time that I'm wide awake and my core processor is functioning properly. I'd like to see the next movie keep MJ as more of a support to Peter's character and have him save someone else at the end for a change. Maybe like the entire Bugle staff? Or at least Jonah?


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