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Menshevik

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Michael

Subj: Re: Spider-Man Vs Wolverine #1 discussion ( 20+ yr old SPOILERS )
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 at 03:34:49 am EST (Viewed 110 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Spider-Man Vs Wolverine #1 discussion ( 20+ yr old SPOILERS )
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 at 07:37:50 pm EST


> > > A thread below made me think of this, why not give your opinions on this issue?
> > >
> > > To me, it's prominent for two reasons, one VERY big one.
> > >
> > > 1. Ned Leeds death. A pivotal moment in the Spider-Saga.
> >
> > It meant a lot at the time, not least because a few months later it was revealed that Ned was the Hobgoblin (a revelation later sacrificed on the altar of Roger Stern's ego). Within the story it was actually kind of a WTF moment for me to see his corpse. With Ned not the Hobgoblin his death was a bit of a waste of a long-running supporting character for a momentary shock, for the purposes of the story the same effect could have been achieved even with an entirely newly created character in the part of the Bugle reporter.
> > As it was first published, we had a situation where a not unimportant player in the Hobgoblin mystery/gang war storyline (involving the Rose, the Kingpin, the Foreigner et al.) that was boiling to a conclusion in 1987 suddenly taken off the board for the sake of a momentary shock in a completely unrelated one-shot story set thousands of miles away.
> > >
> A lot of people had problems with PAD's revealing Ned as the Hobgoblin. First, I'd like to see you try to break the arm of someone who can lift 30 times your body weight. Second, Ned decided to become a killer a few hours after finding the stash, to avenge the death of a brother-in-law he never met? WTF?
> Michael

The solution may not have been perfect, which is hardly surprising since the task was dumped on PAD at the last minute, but the mistake really lay in what PAD added to the reveal. His reading of the previous Hobgoblin story led him to the conclusion that Ned and only Ned could be the Hobgoblin and that solution was accepted well enough at the time. I do not recall a groundswell of opinion calling for a revisit and different solution. Which is perhaps not surprising as the Hobgoblin mystery had been dragged out way too long already and most readers probably wanted to move on. "Hobgoblin Lives!" was published nearly ten years after PAD's solution and really served no purpose other than to provide Roger Stern with an occasion to "set the record straight" in what that vanity mini-series. And a lot of people felt let down when nonentity Kingsley was revealed as the real Hobgoblin and the solution involved the old, old cliché of the identical twin brother.
And where did this leave Ned Leeds (to return to the main subject of this post)? His death in SMvW#1 was now nothing more than a dumb accident because of the Foreigner's mistake. Well, if Macendale was still alive he'd be entitled to a refund...


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