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Subj: Re: Really?
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 04:32:22 am EST (Viewed 149 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Really?
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 at 08:21:25 pm EST

> > > > > Considering it was Mephisto who brought MJ in for this part of the story, the most likely explanation would be that MJ's presence was merely one of Mephisto's illusions, which means there was no actual deal made.
> > > >
> > > > Presence where? What are you talking about?
> > >
> > > ASM 545
> >
> > Okay. Start again. What makes you think she's an illusion?
> As long as the "re-masking" is associated to the deal with Mephisto there is no issue.
> It is only of the "re-masking" is not associated with the deal that we have a problem since there appears to be no reference in any similar story where the "devil" in the story does not honor his end of the deal in some way.
> This means that we have one of two situations:
> 1. That MJ had no influence on Peter's decision (which does not appear to be the case from the story).
> 2. That MJ was never there and what "we" and Peter see is merely an illusion of MJ created by Mephisto. (This does not even contradict anything since Mephisto is the one who brings MJ into the picture.)

That makes a lot of sense, a very interesting theory.

BTW, I don't really see things a any better with someone other than Mephisto being responsible for the "re-masking", because if it wasn't something that Mephisto did without Peter's knowledge, Peter has to be considered responsible (he wanted this to happen) for a mind-altering process that affected and apparently continues to affect millions, which amounts to the moral equivalent of lacing New York's water supply with LSD. And apparently it was done largely, if not entirely for selfish ends, so he could stop being Spider-Man without having to worry about the safety of Aunt May, Mary Jane et al. and even use the re-establishment of his secret as a weapon in his vendetta against JJJ. That kind of behaviour you expect from a villain, not a hero.

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