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Menshevik

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Michael

Subj: Re: Is making a deal with the devil so bad?
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 05:30:53 pm EST (Viewed 73 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Is making a deal with the devil so bad?
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 02:47:47 pm EST


> > > > Here's the reasons why, but suffice to say when your hero makes a deal with a devil you're stuck with a feeling that he sold out. He's not a hero anymore.
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> > > I don't see that as so bad. This is a typical comic storyline. The characters may change but invariably most series has the good guy making a pact with a bad guy so the good guy can save someone he cares about.
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> > > I dislike the whole Brand New Day shit too but I think all of you who claim to hate the storyline because of Peter's deal with the devil aren't being honest with yourselves. None of you care that Pete made a deal with Mephisto. You care that he made the deal to save May, a woman who should have died ages ago. I am certain no one would give a crap if Peter made a deal to save his wife or even his best friend Harry or any other member of the supporting cast but because he did it to save his crusty old aunt people seem to think Peter is a monster.
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> > > Let's be real. No one cares that Peter sold out to the devil. We only care because of who he chose to save.
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> > My, what a marvelous mind-reader you think you are.
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> > > How many people dropped Fantastic Four a few years back when Human Torch made a deal with Dr. Doom to save his sister Susan when she was pregnant with Valerie? How many side deals has the Fantastic Four come to over the years when it comes to Doom...they have even returned him to power....how many people died because of that decision?
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> > The situations are not comparable. For starters, Dr. Doom is a mortal man who has always been portrayed as possessing positive qualities and a potential for redemption, not a demon or embodiment of pure evil. If you don't see the difference between Doctor Doom and Mephisto, perhaps you should read "Triumph and Torment" by Roger Stern and Mike Mignola. And the way the Marvel Universe has been constructed since Stan Lee's days, it seems that for Latverians Dr. Doom's tyranny is still preferable to the alternatives.
> > On the other hand I will say this: I never bought Ghost Rider, and the fact that he sold his soul to a demon probably factored quite high in that decision.
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> What about Dr.Strange, then? He sacrificed Urthona's servant to Satannish to save Morganna. Did you stop reading Dr. Strange after that?

I don't seem to remember that storyline, so I actually may have stopped reading Doctor Strange before that.

> Incidentally, according to the Marvel Appendix, this wasn't the first time Peter struck a deal with Mephisto. He struck a deal with Mephisto to save the Spirit of Christmas in one of those holiday specials.

Don't seem to have read that either. Sounds moronic. Was it in or out of continuity?


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