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Subj: Re: Marc Guggenheim on Spider-Man's Character Assassination
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 at 10:52:29 am EST (Viewed 99 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Marc Guggenheim on Spider-Man's Character Assassination
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 at 12:27:20 am EST (Viewed 95 times)

> > The one thing that really surprised me was to hear Guggenheim talking about how frustrating it is to hear readers talk about how the old stories never happened, when they did. I guess I was just surprised because in all honesty I don't see how the writers can expect the readers to believe all those old stories happened without explaining that. They can say it happened all they want in interviews, but until they actually explain HOW in the comic, no one is going to believe it.
> Very well said, Grumpy. You know what is weird? My line of thinking is almost diametrically opposite from Guggenheim's. Allow me to demonstrate.
> Guggenheim (paraphrased): I can understand readers not liking the current direction, but I can't tolerate readers who claim that everything is changed.
> Me: I can understand creators wanting to go in a different direction, but I can't tolerate creators who claim that nothing has changed.
> I think the fundamental misunderstanding here is that creators are basing their claim on a technicality. Okay, I get that technically the past still happened. But if the characters remember a completely different past than the one that was actually portrayed, the past is no longer valid. Too bad Guggenheim only frequents elitist retailer forums. I'd like him to understand this point.

I've been thinking about it and really the changes to what the characters believe happened don't bother me so much as finding out what happened in the gap between OMD and BND. What led to them splitting up, Harry's return, his secret identity restored, etc? I know some of the answers are coming of course.

In the series Buffy the Vampire Slayer series, she has a sister introduced in Season 5. This changes the characters memories of what happened in Seasons 1-4. AFAIK we've never been told what the characters believe happened in those seasons. I still enjoyed Season 5 though and well parts of Season 6 and 7.

Really though even finding out what happened during the gap is less important than having good current stories of which I don't think we're getting any. They're mediocre filled with few good moments here and there. (12.345.67.89)
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