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Subj: Re: Spoilers and a rant inside. Mary Jane what's the attraction? Please tell me.
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 at 12:38:19 pm EST
Reply Subj: Spoilers and a rant inside. Mary Jane what's the attraction? Please tell me.
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 at 10:20:42 pm EST (Viewed 84 times)

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I just never saw it. She was just there. Go Tiger. I need to act. There there Peter. Oh boo hoo I hate this life. Let me smoke it away. Let me look sexy. I hate this life Peter. There there Peter. Let me look sexy. Look I got captured by a villian. Can someone name one good Mary Jane story in the past twenty years?

HOnestly when I first started reading Spidey in the 80's I was in shock he was married. At first I thought Mary Jane was FireStar. Over time I learned differnt. But really she looked hot to kid's mind. Come to think of it all I remember of Mary Jane was lots of drawings of her in skimpy outfits. Taking showers. And getting pictures of herself naked. And her macking it out with some co-star from some acting gig in Spectactular....hmmm. When did I agree to read Days of Our Lives instead of Spidey? Come to think of it I think this is why I became totally neutral to her. I didn't care if she was in the book or not. She was just...there.

Honestly guys why is the marriage such a tragic lost? Cause I busted a gut laughing when Mephisto said it would be. To me it was just there. Like a prop.

I mean I get the hate almost. Because really we are getting some half assed explanations about continuity and the memory wipe in INTERVIEWS. I like some in story explanation. Yeah yeah they said it over and over again it still happened just that Peter and Mary Jane weren't married. How about saying it in the freaking comic am I right? And since everything still happend than THE OTHER EVOLVE OR DIE still happened. What about his other powers...though they didn't really acknowledge that when he did have them. How did he lose the organic web shooters. Did he lose the stinger/claws (wolverine envey indeed) how about the increased reflexes and spider-sense, the increased strength, and vision etc....????

And lookint at it from a psychological aspect I think Peter should go see Ashley Kafka again for some counseling sessions. Obviously I think Peter and Mary Jane had a unhealthy co-dependent relationship. You know some people act a certain way because of the other person in the relationship. Could breaking up with someone really cause you to revert to a more mmature or previous version of themselves? Quite possible. I agree that Pete has regressed a bit. But why? My brother got divorced and was the most mature guy, a much better guy because of the marriage, but than after he divorced he started acting like the jerk he was in highschool and his early twenties. Went to therapy and he's startring to be like his old self. He's even dating again. His therapist said it was some kind of self defense mechanism that he reversted to a more immature state to deal with some depression and anger he had about the divorce. Maybe that could be used as a retcon..er explanation of Peter's current attitude. I dunno.

I like a lot of the stories after OMD. But I want some Gosh darn back ground man! At least they are going to tell us about Harry. But Jeez they took a freaking YEAR and change. I dunno. Gotta say I liked Jonah's dad showing up. That's a hoot. \:\)

I think that she is appealing because of all the character development she has gone through and the layers of personality that different writers have exposed. Unlike the other female members of the Spider-man cast, readers could relate to her and she felt "Real". She was insecure in many ways but had the confidence to express her complaints without crying and pining constantly.
Also, she also had a spunk and fire to her that made her interactions with Peter interesting and fun from the very beginning. It was explained that deep down they had a lot in common, and that they dealt with their problems similarly, even though they had very different personalities. Peter wasn't very interested in her at first, but grew closer to her over time due to this - - so the development of their relationship was also interesting and realistic. She wasn't the sweet, perfect designated girlfriend and for that reason she was able to have flaws and realistic traits.

Unfortunately, she wasn't written well in the 80's and 90's.... the writers seemed to forget that she had a personality and life outside "Spider-man's wife". Her life appeared to revolve around worrying about him.
I started reading Spider-man comics way after they were married, but I did research on her and read older comics. I do think that she was written very well by JMS, and that it is possible to make her a great characters while married to Peter. Writers just need to take the time to understand her and learn about her backstory and development.


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