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Subj: He's smarter than that, he worked it out.
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 08:15:19 pm EDT (Viewed 113 times)
Reply Subj: Re: So much larger than life
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 08:18:00 am EDT (Viewed 110 times)

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    I still have the last two Spider-Girl issues to read, but honestly, it's just kind of jarring how he was beeing written as far so much more skilled, powerful and hyper-competant than he ever was in the 1980s (where he'd usually be losing fights, but escape due to luck and/or elaborate plans to get away). It kind of feels like Tom was giving readers the 1980s Hobgoblin that their nostalgia remembered and wanted, rather than the way he really was.


I don't know about that, but let's not forget that, in his earliest appearances, the Hobgoblin had no super-strength. That's why his escapes were luck more than anything. He was still a terrific strategist, and once he acquired strength, he became a more than formidable opponent, albeit a bit less balanced.

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> > I still have the last two Spider-Girl issues to read, but honestly, it's just kind of jarring how he was beeing written as far so much more skilled, powerful and hyper-competant than he ever was in the 1980s (where he'd usually be losing fights, but escape due to luck and/or elaborate plans to get away). It kind of feels like Tom was giving readers the 1980s Hobgoblin that their nostalgia remembered and wanted, rather than the way he really was.

> I don't know about that, but let's not forget that, in his earliest appearances, the Hobgoblin had no super-strength. That's why his escapes were luck more than anything. He was still a terrific strategist, and once he acquired strength, he became a more than formidable opponent, albeit a bit less balanced.

That's really just the very first 2 issues that introduce him, though, where he gets away by blowing stuff up and endangering civilians, then getting away while Peter's on rescue-duty.

After that, his next appearance involves him staying in the background and using Lefty Donovan as a pawn, then following that, he gets his powers, and most of his subsequent escapes really did come down to luck more than "just as planned", as well as the needs of "if he doesn't get away somehow, the mystery's over", thus stuff like him getting away when they crash into the river, or Peter tearing his mask off but somehow not getting a look at his face.

Harry and Jason are the only goblins to ever really get several stories in a row in which they're in action without any powers at all. Which reminds me, is Harry still supposed to have his powers?

Also, while I remember, that "Big Time" trailer? The 'animation' for Venom made me want to cry, it was that terrible.


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