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Subj: Re: Carnage without Carnage
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 08:14:44 am EDT (Viewed 174 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Carnage without Carnage
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 04:26:26 am EDT (Viewed 182 times)

    What's weird, and kind of sad, is how the writer talked about keeping Kasady dead out of "respect" for Bendis' New Avengers work where he was killed, despite the fact that Bendis himself was smart enough to realise Marvel would want Kasady back one day, and later state it was unknown if he was in the symbiote when the Sentry tore it up.

Bendis also clearly didn't know anything about Carnage at the time, believing he had the same life-absorbing powers he had in the animated show (which he had, of course, because you can't have a rampaging serial killer on a kids' show).

    But this is the problem: People who like Carnage don't want to read about Carnage that isn't Kasady, and people who don't like Carnage aren't likely to be won over by a new Carnage.

I think this is a mistake writers often make with the symbiotes. Throughout this decade, writers have continued to believe that Venom was the name of the alien symbiote Eddie Brock wears (or wore), not understanding that Venom is the specific combination of Eddie Brock and that particular symbiote. Consequently, you have books like that terrible Venom series, written by Daniel Way, in which Venom didn't even appear until the very last arc. (It wasn't even really his symbiote!)

Likewise, Carnage is Cletus Kasady plus a specific alien symbiote.

(Of course, it's not really a particular one anymore, because Venom absorbed it and Carnage got a new one in the Negative Zone and . . . and this is why we try to forget the Mackie run.)

If anything, I'd say Cletus Kasady is more essential to Carnage than the symbiote. That the alien has absorbed a good deal of Kasady's inborn bloodlust is compelling (and we've seen that it has, in stories when the symbiote has taken over Spider-Man and the Silver Surfer, respectively), but the character traits that make Carnage Carnage come from Kasady.


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