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Subj: Re: Loners only sold in the 15,000 range, nobody read it
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 at 11:29:20 am EST (Viewed 204 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Loners only sold in the 15,000 range, nobody read it
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 at 07:28:45 am EST (Viewed 204 times)

    So the fact you hadn't check your facts before making an inaccurate statement on a public forum absolves you of all responsibility for the inaccurate statement?

As far as I can see, the offending statement is this:

"- Phil's turn to the darkside and revelation as the newest Hobgoblin is very lame and very out of character for Phil. I buy him as less of a major threat than Mr. Negative or even The Spot."

Now this is Tobias's opinion, so there is the question in how far it can even be considered "inaccurate". One might say that it was based on incomplete information, but he based it on the information he had. If you would expect people who write about Spider-Man to be aware not only of every Spider-Man comic ever published but also of every guest-appearance of Spider-Man-related characters in non-Spidey series, including obscure stuff like "Loners" (confession time: I read that series and even I forgot that Phil Urich was in it in the intervening three years), then there probably isn't a single person on this board who would be allowed to post at all.

Not to mention that even taking Phil Urich's breakdown in Loners into account, one could still consider the transformation "lame"(1) or "out of character" (AFAIK he had never killed before). And indeed that given he had previously always been portrayed as a comparative lightweight and apart from that one obscure appearance had not been active in costume since Onslaught (and that in his appearances in Spider-Girl he continually had his ass handed to him), should he really have been able to defeat Roderick Kingsley that easily? (Which would point to the old switcheroo, of course).

(1) I did not read the issues in question, as usual, but relevant questions would be: Was this set up at all in Phil's preceding BND/BT appearances? And how would it appear to a new reader, i. e. the kind of person BND/BT is meant to attract, who would presumably not be aware of the minutiae of Phil Urich's previous history or indeed of "Loners"?

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