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Subj: Re: Things That I Do NOT Want To(o?) See From The New Relaunch. What About You?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 11:22:46 am EST (Viewed 105 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Things That I Do NOT Want To(o?) See From The New Relaunch. What About You?
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:56:11 am EST (Viewed 164 times)


    I have to agree. I'm not sure where else they can go with Norman. In his current state, he's not really (to me) a Spider-Man villain anymore. At first, I hated that they brought him back... but then I liked the way they worked him as a "super business man that the public loved who was secretly a super villain." I wasn't a fan of the whole Gathering of Five thing, but liked the way Roger Stern fixed that in the Green Goblin limited series. It's personal bias, but like I said, he doesn't seem like a Spidey villain anymore. He's gone big time.

Agreed, he's an Avengers villain now. Having him go back to being obsessed with Spider-man (or even having him go back to being the Green Goblin) would feel like a regression. He's now Marvel's Lex Luthor.

    We've had, what, 5 or 6 Green Goblins, 4 or 5 Hobgoblins, a Demogoblin, a Grey Goblin, Menace... done with this. I'll take one Green (possibly Harry again?) and one Hob (the original, please). I don't really read all the other titles, so I'm not sure what Jack O'Lantern's status is right now.

I'd like to see the Green Goblin take a break. I don't want a villainous Harry nor a heroic Green Goblin, and I don't want Norman to resume the identity (so both Osborns are out). I don't ever want to be reminded of Gabriel Stacey, and Bart Hamilton is dead. There's no one who should have this identity at the moment, so retire it.

As for the Hobgoblin - I still much prefer the Kinsley Hobgoblin. Having Phil as a dark Peter Parker is interesting, but I don't like him in the iconic role of the Hobgoblin.

    I was worried that, with the recent movie, we would either see the return of Gwen, or 8 million references to her... but we haven't. Honestly, when it comes to Gwen, she was (is?) Peter's true love. I don't mind those visits or trips down memory lane. I lost my college girlfriend to a drunk driver... and every once in a while I think about her. If I lived in South Carolina, where she died, I might visit the site, leave a rose and think about what might have been. Some things you never heal from. With Gwen, what I'd like to see is a bit of a tweak to "Sin's Past" where she didn't sleep with Norman (couldn't he have just artificially gotten her pregnant, as an experiment instead?), because I find it hard to believe she went to London and her Uncle Arthur never noticed she was pregnant, or never mentioned it to Peter when he was part of the series.

Sorry to hear of your loss, that's a terrible situation. I'm all for a retcon that removes the horror of Gwen sleeping with Norman, but it's been referenced so much that I'm not sure how it can be cleanly undone.

    Loved Aunt May's "Grey Panther" days. Loved Aunt May the landlord. Not to be evil, but loved when Aunt May died. To me, that was so powerful and touching. HATED when they reversed it. But, LOVED the way JMS wrote Aunt May, discovering the identity, etc. Dan Slott hasn't written her, yet, as an old, feeble lady who is in death's doorway... and I trust that he won't.

She was so much more interesting under JMS. Here's a character who has regressed, and if she doesn't discover Peter's identity (which would be hopelessly derivative of the coming-out scenes in JMS' and Bendis' stories), I don't see a way for her to evolve.

    Always preferred Spider-Man as a loner, myself. When he joined all the groups, it didn't work for me, personally. I still think it's weird when the other heroes call him "Peter." Just something I need to get over, I guess \:\)

Spider-man is a big personality, and having him shuffling along with the Avengers always felt wrong to me. I don't mind exploring the friendships he's made there, but I don't like him as an active member.

As for the FF - I see them more or less as a parental role for Spider-man (not Peter Parker, but Spider-man). I'd like to see him reaching out to the FF when he needs to lick his wounds or "come out of the cold." But having him as an active member also feels forced, especially since Johnny's resurrection.

    Yea, same as the Goblin stuff for me... we've had enough Spider-females. Pick one (and personally, I ALWAYS like to stick with the originals)

I like Jessica Drew as Spider-woman, but I don't want to see her as a permanent member of the ASM cast. I don't mind Julia as Madame Web, but I preferred her as Arachne. There should never be a Spider-Girl in 616 chronology unless Peter and MJ one day give birth to Mayday Parker.

    No more symbiotes. I agree. Sadly, that became overkill back in the 90s. Made Venom and Carnage lose their uniqueness.

I think the Shi'ar should pay a visit to Earth and eliminate the Symbiotes (except for Venom and Carnage, who have earned their right to exist). They seem to be considered a dangerous pestilence among the stars. Sterilize Venom and Carnage somehow so they can't create new Symbiotes.

    I'm curious to see what they are going to do with this Superior Spider-Man. Looking forward to at least giving it a chance \:\)

I'm curious about it but won't necessarily support it with my $. Depends on who Spider-man will be.

"It is not our abilities that show what we truly are. It is our choices." – Albus Dumbledore
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