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Richard L

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Reverend Meteor

Subj: Wasn't the different direction a breath of fresh air though?
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 at 01:24:32 pm EST (Viewed 64 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Spider-Man: The Complete Ben Reilly Epic, Book 5
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      Some of the low lights of Ben's spidey run:
      1. DK



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    Agree.



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      2. Armada



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    I loved Armada. I just liked a new villain, I like a lot of new villains instead of the tired old classics, and I found his habit of naming his mechanisms quite endearing. That he also worked with Mysterio was also quite fun to me. I'd like to see him again.



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      3. The spider-skeleton



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    Yes, note to writers -- don't start a story when you don't know where you're going with it. They didn't, and it sucked.



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      4. Peter dying



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    Yes, this too was pretty awful. It made you think Pete was really the Clone, but it was just nothing but a fake out with no pay off. I have to say that 'Peter dies of mysterious illnesses' plots tend not to work... (The Other springs to mind)



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      5. The virtual reality story



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    I'm not sure which one you mean. The only one I can think of was before Ben became Spidey, but I don't remember one afterwards?



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      6. Fortunato
      7. Black Tarantula
      8. Rose and Delilah



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    Although Fortunato, Rose and Delilah did all just appear in the last few issues of Spidey, Black Tarantula didn't. And the Fortunato / Rose stuff only really kicked in once Ben was dead. Okay, Delilah kicked in beforehand, but not by much. I think you're getting the pre-Gathering stuff mixed up with the Ben Spidey stuff. Maybe?



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    I actually really liked all that stuff. I'm a sucker for Gang War stories, and Delilah and Black Tarantula were interesting to me. Black Tarantula was nice as an amoral villain who had no threat from Peter, whereas I thought Delilah was fun for being nuts. And the Rose story didn't seem as tired as yet another Goblin for me, although for me, I couldn't stomach any more Roses (which is why the recent Rose in Jackpot didn't do it for me).



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    I liked Fortunato for being different to the old tired Kingpin, and I liked that his son was used for being Venom II, and that is how the character was given an ending. So few characters get a fitting ending like that - Marvel often resort to killing them off for shock value, which is a great waste of everybody's time because, well, comics. Back next week from the gates of Hell, and usually in a very unconvincing fashion. I still smart from the TiMe BuLLeTS.



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      I didn't like any of that stuff.



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    Which bits in particular did you like?


I liked the clone saga until the end of Maximum Cloneage.

I liked Ben as the Scarlet Spider. I liked Ben and Peter's dynamic. I even liked the spider pregnancy, Jackal, Scrier, Judas Traveler, Kaine and Spidercide.

But I didn't care for the stories after the Jackal left. It seemed like a different direction at that point and it wasn't one I really enjoyed.



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    For me, I didn't like The Final Adventure, DK, the Will o'the Wisp appearance, the bland Lizard story, or Jimmy 6 out of the Ben Reilly Spidey stuff, but pretty much everything else for me was great fun. I really enjoyed it all I have to say.



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    I really didn't want Peter back as Spidey when I read the stories through. I'd've rather Peter be depowered and retire with MJ, with Ben Reilly being a knowing Clone and living his own life as Spidey. That would have been perfect for me. But too daring for a franchised character I think.



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    -Jeremiah Ecks,
    who hopes 2015 is better than 2014.




To me it gave me a character to root for a fresh world of characters to enjoy, new dynamics with old and new friends.

It was the perfect blend.


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