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Subj: Re: As a social scientist, I'd like to remind you all that correlation does not equal causation.
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 at 04:41:40 am EST (Viewed 101 times)
Reply Subj: As a social scientist, I'd like to remind you all that correlation does not equal causation.
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 at 02:33:30 pm EST (Viewed 11 times)

In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a social scientist of sorts myself (a historian).

    You and the OP seem to be cherry-picking statistics to draw some unwarranted conclusions. You make it sound like the sudden drop in activity was a result of OMD, but the board has always had its ups and downs, and you're comparing a time when there was a lot going on in Spider-Man's world to a time when there's not all that much happening. As Comp noted in an earlier thread, this isn't a particularly eventful time for Spider-Man discussions. Spider-Verse is a fairly mediocre crossover, and there's not a lot to say about it. It's not intriguing enough for people to talk and speculate about it, but it's also not bad enough to people to complain about it. Spider-Man doesn't have another movie coming out for a few years, and his new cartoon isn't all that popular. There's just not a lot to talk about.

Umm, saying that there is less activity here now because this isn't an eventful time in Spider-Man discussions is saying that there is less activity now because there is less activity now.

Spider-verse is supposed to be a huge event, Marvel used it as justification to launch new titles (Spider-Gwen, Silk etc. should have spawned many threads of their own), much-loved characters were killed, etc., but the reaction here is apathy. (People should also be talking about the possibility of Marvel rebooting this year and maybe speculate about the "Renewing Your Vows" teaser). There is actually quite a bit of stuff going on re. the moview with talk of a second reboot now that Marvel and Sony seem to have come to an agreement. So the normal expectation would be that there should be a lot of debate here - and not just on navel-gazing threads like this one ;\-\) .

    If you looked at this board's activity when The Amazing Spider-Man came out, or when the Superior Spider-Man story arc first began, I bet it would be a lot higher than it is now. Likewise, if you looked at this board's activity during the middle of the JMS run, before The Other and Civil War and Back in Black, I bet it would be a lot lower than it was in the months immediately preceding OMD. The scenario you're describing, where these boards were buzzing with activity prior to OMD and dead as a doornail afterwards, didn't actually happen. There's really not any clear divide like the one you're proposing.

I think you're arguing beside the point; oldspideyfan only compared activity pre-OMD to activity in January, he did not describe the scenario that you say he described. And FormerSMBMember only wrote about being made to feel unwelcome here during the aftermath of OMD. Myself, I never claimed that the boards were buzzing with activity before OMD and dead as a doornail afterwards, knowing full well that if anything OMD for quite a while resulted in a rise of board activity.

But I would still say that OMD is one of the reasons that activity on this board diminished in the long run. OMD, BND, OMIT etc. made many people stop caring for Spider-Man because he became a different, for many less likeable character and that the fan-fiction by Quesada, Slott and co. had made the franchise "jump the shark". With that a lot of people no longer mustered the energy even to voice their discontent, which made the discussions of recent storylines a bit more one-sided and consequently shorter.

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