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Jeremiah_Ecks

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Subj: It is so sad that Marvel doesn't fix Spidey
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 at 01:03:46 am EST (Viewed 149 times)
Reply Subj: Re: I like it.
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 at 10:46:15 am EST (Viewed 142 times)

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Gotta be honest mate, I can't get excited either. It's another new gimmick. Spencer was hitting quite a few great notes and fixing some of the damage all those years ago...

But Spidey can't be fixed.

The main Marvel icon MADE A DEAL WITH THE ACTUAL DEVIL. I.e. he's damaged goods.

If anybody is still reading and having fun, more power to you but I can't move on as many times as Marvel want to reboot or do whatever. Plus their continuity is totally impenetrable since they decided to have 50 zillion books a month per character.

Also I have a big issue with stories where people find out Peter's identity and it has no real world consequences. Basically if his identity gets found out by someone who wants to kill him, they should IMMEDIATELY reveal it and get him taken out. If someone wants you out of the way they don't dither around. Total bad storytelling and fake suspense.

I bring it up because in Last Remains EVERYBODY seems to know who he is and the previews for the costume strongly imply Kingpin knows. I know they've been hinting it but Last Remains ends with Fisk appearing with unmasked Peter from what I hear. I totally hate this and really puts me off. Because if Kingpin doesn't reveal his identity publically, it's nonsense. If he does however it should have consequences... and ruin Peter forever.

MCU thinks it's trendy to have all the identities on display. Alright. But you can't have classic Spider-Man because he won't be able to get married, hold down a job or be identifiable as one of us. He'll become a full-time superhero with no private life at best. That's not 'one of us' making him nothing more than a generic superhero.

That's why his identity is important.

But since Marvel don't respect the identity and since Marvel thought selling his marriage to the devil was 'heroic', this isn't the 'relateable' Spider-Man I ever knew. It's someone morally bankrupt or generic.

I always find it pleasing to see others besides me voice my disgust over how they had Spidey make a deal with the devil.

The newspaper strip version reversed the deal and had it where it was all a dream Peter had. (thank you, Stan!)

Yet the comics for years have to suffer the stigma of a character that is meant for fans of all ages, this means KIDS too, gets so screwed up that he takes an easy out by making a faustian bargain. This is Spider-man, not Johnny Blaze.

In fact I am a bit surprised that Blaze or any of the other Ghost Riders don't sense some great sin hanging over Spiderman and zap him with the penance stare and see if that jogs his memory.

Also doesn't Dr Strange now sense something amiss with him?

As to fixing the Mephisto Mindwipe, well its been so long that some serious Deus ex machina writing is now needed. Some serious time travel, or the reality gem, or the time gem or the cosmic cube are needed at this point. Yet they don't fix the damage, while it is okay TWICE now for Tony Stark to be corrupted and turned evil (Crossing and Superior Iron Man) and the only fix for both was to kill him off and revive him via Deus Ex Machina writing. (Heroes Return, Secret War)

Nick Fury was once long ago believed killed by the Punisher but through some weak writing was brought back.

Yet they do not want to fix one of their flagship characters. Pathetic.

What they should do is negate the deal even if it means Aunt May finally dies...(Again!). Then they could have Peter and MJ spend a bit of time apart to deal with their issues over the matter then of course kiss and make up. Also the assorted heroes should learn of the deal and how the deal's affects may have impacted their own lives and seriously shun Spidey for a long time.




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