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Omar Karindu

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MattS80

Subj: Re: Questions About Superman Villians: Are Superman And Luthor Friends, Prankster, Metallo, Et [SPOILERS]
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 12:28:18 pm EST (Viewed 2 times)
Reply Subj: Questions About Superman Villians: Are Superman And Luthor Friends, Prankster, Metallo, Et [SPOILERS]
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 05:04:52 am EST

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I'm curious about Superman and his villians. He's not exactly regarded for his Rogues gallery. But on to my questions:

# Were Luthor and Superman friends? I heard they were really good friends (like best friends) at one point. If so, why WOULDN'T Luthor know that Superman is Clark Kent? Also, were Batman and Luthor ever friendly and or allies at any point?

# Were Brainiac and Superman ever allies, or always enemies? I thought Brainiac was a Legion member before he turned bad. Or was that ANOTHER Brainiac I'm thinking of? How many are there anyway?

# Did the Cyborg Superman and Superman really have a relationship before he became the Cyborg Superman? I know that they knew each other, but how close were they? And how come this guy keeps on dying?

# The Prankster seems cool, but really, how could he be a threat to Supes? He is still just a human.

# I heard the Toyman went straight at one point. What's with the new Toyman? Is the old one still around?

# Is Metallo still alive? It seemed like Luthor pulled out his heart ot something. I'll had to re-read that part of Up Up and Away.

# Aren't Bizarro and Superman kind of allies, not enemies? Ditto for Mr. Mxyznoonecanpronouncehisnameimp?

# When did Darkseid and Superman first encounter each other? How many times have they fought?

I think that's it for now. Thanks.

> I'm curious about Superman and his villians. He's not exactly regarded for his Rogues gallery. But on to my questions:
>
> # Were Luthor and Superman friends? I heard they were really good friends (like best friends) at one point. If so, why WOULDN'T Luthor know that Superman is Clark Kent? Also, were Batman and Luthor ever friendly and or allies at any point?

Pre-Crisis, they were friends as kids. Currently, Superman seems to see Luthor as a man who could've benefitted the world but is too deluded to do so, and Lex sees Superman as all that is wrong with the world.

> # Were Brainiac and Superman ever allies, or always enemies? I thought Brainiac was a Legion member before he turned bad. Or was that ANOTHER Brainiac I'm thinking of? How many are there anyway?

Superman and Brainiac grudgingly allied against Braniac-13, a future model that wanted to replace the original, but the team-up was fraught with compromise and betrayal. Pre-Crisis, they once teamed up to ward off an even smarter alien menace named Grax who threatened them both.

Brainiac 5, a descendant of another Brainiac -- it's as much a title on their homeworld as anything -- is the Legion member, and has never been a Superman opponent. There are 13 Brainiacs, but we've only seen versions of 1, 2, 4, 5, 8, 12, and 13.

> # Did the Cyborg Superman and Superman really have a relationship before he became the Cyborg Superman? I know that they knew each other, but how close were they? And how come this guy keeps on dying?

Hank Henshaw was an astronaut accidentally turned into an energy force that can inhabit various forms. He blames Superman for...actually, it never made that much sense, really.

> # The Prankster seems cool, but really, how could he be a threat to Supes? He is still just a human.

He's been amped up with nanotechnology allowing him to carry off massive "pranks." Read "Up, Up and Away" for examples.

> # I heard the Toyman went straight at one point. What's with the new Toyman? Is the old one still around?

Toyman, after a period as a child killer, seemingly reformed, but it recently turned out to be one of Zatanna's mindwipes and was undone.. Another Toyman, a Japanese inventor, was never a criminal in the first place. The current Toyman appears to be a robot of some kind, and wants to find Winslow Schott, the original.

> # Is Metallo still alive? It seemed like Luthor pulled out his heart ot something. I'll had to re-read that part of Up Up and Away.

He's lost the Kryptonite heart and lived before, usually due to backup power sources.

> # Aren't Bizarro and Superman kind of allies, not enemies? Ditto for Mr. Mxyznoonecanpronouncehisnameimp?

Sorta kinda. They don't usually want him dead, at least.

> # When did Darkseid and Superman first encounter each other? How many times have they fought?

Forever People #1 and I don't know, respectively.

> I think that's it for now. Thanks.

- Omar Karindu

"Brubaker and Phillips' CRIMINAL #1...is really ****ing good. I mean, REALLY ****ing good." -- Warren Ellis

"Brilliant. Another winner. Ed's at the top of his game and Sean's inventing new games to be on top of...I can't wait for more." -- Kurt Busiek

Read CRIMINAL by Brubaker and Phillips. Because it's that good.


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