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MattS80

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Peter Svensson

Subj: Re: Even If Clark Didn't Tell Him, Wouldn't Luthor Know Anyway? NT
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 04:58:35 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: Questions About Superman Villians: Are Superman And Luthor Friends, Prankster, Metallo, Et [SPOILERS]
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 12:41:25 pm EST

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> # Were Luthor and Superman friends? I heard they were really good friends (like best friends) at one point. If so, why WOULDN'T Luthor know that Superman is Clark Kent?

Clark didn't tell Luthor his secret. This is a weak spot in the mythos right now, and I expect that Kurt Busiek is going to cover this once he gets around to it.

> Also, were Batman and Luthor ever friendly and or allies at any point?

No.

> # Were Brainiac and Superman ever allies, or always enemies? I thought Brainiac was a Legion member before he turned bad. Or was that ANOTHER Brainiac I'm thinking of? How many are there anyway?

There is a descendant of Brainiac in the Legion, Brainiac 5, who is a hero. (mostly.)

Brainiac is a villain. There's been a few other of his descendants who have time traveled to the present to cause trouble, such as Brainiac 13.

> # Did the Cyborg Superman and Superman really have a relationship before he became the Cyborg Superman? I know that they knew each other, but how close were they? And how come this guy keeps on dying?

Cyborg Superman used an astronaut who was mutated, and encountered Superman once as a villain. He then used the powers he gained to mimic Superman during that period of time when Superman was presumed dead.

> # The Prankster seems cool, but really, how could he be a threat to Supes? He is still just a human.

He's still a human. The plans he executes can cause trouble for Superman. He may not be able to punch Superman out, but if he keeps Superman busy with, say ten thousand banana peels on a bridge making cars fall off a cliff, he can be effective.

> # I heard the Toyman went straight at one point. What's with the new Toyman? Is the old one still around?

Original Toyman is MIA.
There was another Toyman, a Japanese kid who ended up making gear for Batman. He's presumably still around, but we haven't seen him in a while.
The New Toyman seems like a creation of the original.

> # Is Metallo still alive? It seemed like Luthor pulled out his heart ot something. I'll had to re-read that part of Up Up and Away.

Metallo is still alive, just turned off. It'll be interesting when he gets reactivated.

> # Aren't Bizarro and Superman kind of allies, not enemies? Ditto for Mr. Mxyznoonecanpronouncehisnameimp?

Bizarro is... odd. He's not really an archnemesis, but neither is he an ally. He does what he does. Same for Mxy. Sometimes Mxy is all about causing trouble, othertimes he really does care for Superman. It's complicated.

> # When did Darkseid and Superman first encounter each other? How many times have they fought?

I believe their first encounter was in the Superman titles in about 87. They've fought a handful of times.

Peter Svensson

> > # Were Luthor and Superman friends? I heard they were really good friends (like best friends) at one point. If so, why WOULDN'T Luthor know that Superman is Clark Kent?
>
> Clark didn't tell Luthor his secret. This is a weak spot in the mythos right now, and I expect that Kurt Busiek is going to cover this once he gets around to it.
>
> > Also, were Batman and Luthor ever friendly and or allies at any point?
>
> No.
>
> > # Were Brainiac and Superman ever allies, or always enemies? I thought Brainiac was a Legion member before he turned bad. Or was that ANOTHER Brainiac I'm thinking of? How many are there anyway?
>
> There is a descendant of Brainiac in the Legion, Brainiac 5, who is a hero. (mostly.)
>
> Brainiac is a villain. There's been a few other of his descendants who have time traveled to the present to cause trouble, such as Brainiac 13.
>
> > # Did the Cyborg Superman and Superman really have a relationship before he became the Cyborg Superman? I know that they knew each other, but how close were they? And how come this guy keeps on dying?
>
> Cyborg Superman used an astronaut who was mutated, and encountered Superman once as a villain. He then used the powers he gained to mimic Superman during that period of time when Superman was presumed dead.
>
> > # The Prankster seems cool, but really, how could he be a threat to Supes? He is still just a human.
>
> He's still a human. The plans he executes can cause trouble for Superman. He may not be able to punch Superman out, but if he keeps Superman busy with, say ten thousand banana peels on a bridge making cars fall off a cliff, he can be effective.
>
> > # I heard the Toyman went straight at one point. What's with the new Toyman? Is the old one still around?
>
> Original Toyman is MIA.
> There was another Toyman, a Japanese kid who ended up making gear for Batman. He's presumably still around, but we haven't seen him in a while.
> The New Toyman seems like a creation of the original.
>
> > # Is Metallo still alive? It seemed like Luthor pulled out his heart ot something. I'll had to re-read that part of Up Up and Away.
>
> Metallo is still alive, just turned off. It'll be interesting when he gets reactivated.
>
> > # Aren't Bizarro and Superman kind of allies, not enemies? Ditto for Mr. Mxyznoonecanpronouncehisnameimp?
>
> Bizarro is... odd. He's not really an archnemesis, but neither is he an ally. He does what he does. Same for Mxy. Sometimes Mxy is all about causing trouble, othertimes he really does care for Superman. It's complicated.
>
> > # When did Darkseid and Superman first encounter each other? How many times have they fought?
>
> I believe their first encounter was in the Superman titles in about 87. They've fought a handful of times.
>
> Peter Svensson


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