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darth-sinister

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Beowulf

Subj: Re: How do Superman's powers work under other stars?
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 at 03:28:33 pm CST
Reply Subj: Re: How do Superman's powers work under other stars?
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 at 03:32:34 am CST

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> > > > In the thread above, Niddle mentioned a Superman Vs. Aliens story. In that story, Superman wasn't near ANY sun at all, and he eventually became powerless. I don't think that kind of thing happened at all pre-1986.
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> > I think, Superman did mention to himself that there were many red stars in that area, which would have contributed to his faster power loss.
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> > > Sure it did. Pre-Crisis, Superman had to be under -- or at least near -- a yellow sun, or his powers went away.
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> > > omike015
> > > \:\-\|
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> > Don't think that it was that cut and dried. Once he had superpowers, he kept them, till he was exposed to red sunlight.
> > I remember even a story, where Jor-El and Lara had powers on one of Krypton's moons while being out of the red sun.
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> First, there was no red sun where Argo was, in "Superman vs Aliens". The first thing he notices is that there is no sun there and that he can already feel himself start to weaken. That's how come the Alien's acid was able to burn his face and why it was tough to fight it. By the end of issue two, he's at the level of the Golden Age incarnation. In issue three, he barely has enough juice to use X-ray vision. Once he gets home and near the sun, he quickly recharges and survives the Queen chestburster.
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No red sun at Argo itself, but i dimly remember him stating that there were many red suns in area, while he is enroute to Argo in his space-ship. Might be wrong, though, since it has been a while since i last read it.

> Second, that story that you mentioned Beowulf, that was before it was fully established that the sun has to do with powers. On Krypton, they were normal people. Away from there, they were super powered. As the 60's started, the sun would play a factor in power levels. Someone can correct me on that.

Nevertheless, the powers were of a on/off switch proposition. It seemed more that Superman's powers had to be switched off, by red suns, than eventual fading away themselves by lack of a yellow sun.

> > > > > In the thread above, Niddle mentioned a Superman Vs. Aliens story. In that story, Superman wasn't near ANY sun at all, and he eventually became powerless. I don't think that kind of thing happened at all pre-1986.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think, Superman did mention to himself that there were many red stars in that area, which would have contributed to his faster power loss.
> > >
> > > > Sure it did. Pre-Crisis, Superman had to be under -- or at least near -- a yellow sun, or his powers went away.
> > > >
> > > > omike015
> > > > \:\-\|
> > >
> > > Don't think that it was that cut and dried. Once he had superpowers, he kept them, till he was exposed to red sunlight.
> > > I remember even a story, where Jor-El and Lara had powers on one of Krypton's moons while being out of the red sun.
> >
> >
> > First, there was no red sun where Argo was, in "Superman vs Aliens". The first thing he notices is that there is no sun there and that he can already feel himself start to weaken. That's how come the Alien's acid was able to burn his face and why it was tough to fight it. By the end of issue two, he's at the level of the Golden Age incarnation. In issue three, he barely has enough juice to use X-ray vision. Once he gets home and near the sun, he quickly recharges and survives the Queen chestburster.
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> No red sun at Argo itself, but i dimly remember him stating that there were many red suns in area, while he is enroute to Argo in his space-ship. Might be wrong, though, since it has been a while since i last read it.

I'll double check, but for much of the 90's, the red sun was barely a factor. Only in showing Krypton via flashbacks and mentioning that only a yellow sun can make him Superman. It wasn't, as far as I can recall, until "Return To Krypton" that we started getting confirmation that he can have his power under a red sun for a short time.


> > Second, that story that you mentioned Beowulf, that was before it was fully established that the sun has to do with powers. On Krypton, they were normal people. Away from there, they were super powered. As the 60's started, the sun would play a factor in power levels. Someone can correct me on that.
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> Nevertheless, the powers were of a on/off switch proposition. It seemed more that Superman's powers had to be switched off, by red suns, than eventual fading away themselves by lack of a yellow sun.

The fading came when it was established that Superman is like a solar battery or a sponge. Pre-Crisis, it was just a light switch, if you will. Dense molecular structure and all that. Post-Crisis, he could gain his powers slowly and then lose them slowly. Over time, regaining his powers didn't take as long as losing them.


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